Hi guys! Me and 2 other people got facerolled by 2 d/d elementalists yesterday in wvw. From what I could observe they were both 0/10/0/30/30 boon duration eles and they were cycling through attunements such that none of them were in water attunement at the same time. Whenever we would immobilize or interrupt one of them the other would come in with updraft or earthquake or pop into water for aoe condi removal. What are some tips for taking on such a setup?
Bow out because eles are epic. Really though, just coordinate yourself. Any 2v2 should have a roughly equal chance against each other, especially when organized.
It’s not that easy to counter 2 eles with a necro, they can cleanse conditions each other and double their cleanse ability, double their heals and get a bigger protection uptime.
If u don’t have atleast 2 necros u need to be good enough
Hi guys! Me and 2 other people got facerolled by 2 d/d elementalists yesterday in wvw. From what I could observe they were both 0/10/0/30/30 boon duration eles and they were cycling through attunements such that none of them were in water attunement at the same time. Whenever we would immobilize or interrupt one of them the other would come in with updraft or earthquake or pop into water for aoe condi removal. What are some tips for taking on such a setup?
I’m going against myself spreading counters, but here’s one:
Use chill. If you manage to mantain a good amount of chills on an elementalist, you’re screwing all of his attunement swapping and eventually leading to his death. An elementalist who can’t swap to water can’t heal and can’t remove conditions, which means they are pretty much dead. Chill also prevents them to escape from the fight, which is nice since they need to disengage in order to safely heal up.
There’s nothing else really. Once you mantain a good uptime of Chill, you’ll realize that the protection uptime goes down dramatically, the healing is weakned and their mobility hampered. Now just smash everything you have on them and win.
thanks for the tips, didn’t know that chill affected elemental attunement recharge. Next time i’ll go on my necro, spam attacks when his frost aura is up and send it back at him and see how it goes.
Problem with bringing just 1 condition necro is that he will be focused down quite easily.
Generally you should try to get a group that is stronger than the sum of its parts. Venom sharing thief, shout warrior/guard, ele (possibly with aura sharing), staff mesmer, engi necro condicleave, double burst stealth thieves,…
If you’re just a couple randoms with no synergy, you’re gonna get rolled by the glorious aoe damage+aoe support class that is the elementalist
I agree with Sorrow. Chill really screws up my timing with attunement swapping, combos, and movement, especially when applied to me repeatedly and maintained. In addition to those, condi-heavy builds and range are natural counters to the ele d/d playstyle. Mesmers and necros are great at doing both.
Ah jes..Or simply 2 berserker thiefs that can open on one target on the same time.No matter how tanky they are the health will drop bellow 50%.After that its your usual spam 2 button..or maybe do that from the start.
Immobilisation pro skill spam helps a lot as well.How many times will they get it off them?
Necros are not a problem usualy for D/D condi cleanse ele..if they are running cleansing fire its even easier.If they are 2 even more easier.You cannot get the double conditions while they do have double condi removal since they are 2
Hi guys! Me and 2 other people got facerolled by 2 d/d elementalists yesterday in wvw. From what I could observe they were both 0/10/0/30/30 boon duration eles and they were cycling through attunements such that none of them were in water attunement at the same time. Whenever we would immobilize or interrupt one of them the other would come in with updraft or earthquake or pop into water for aoe condi removal. What are some tips for taking on such a setup?
What are you and the other people playing? It depends on the comp if you can counter or not.
Easy face roll you just would need 1 necro and 1 thief with perplexity problem solved.
Hi guys! Me and 2 other people got facerolled by 2 d/d elementalists yesterday in wvw. From what I could observe they were both 0/10/0/30/30 boon duration eles and they were cycling through attunements such that none of them were in water attunement at the same time. Whenever we would immobilize or interrupt one of them the other would come in with updraft or earthquake or pop into water for aoe condi removal. What are some tips for taking on such a setup?
What are you and the other people playing? It depends on the comp if you can counter or not.
Easy face roll you just would need 1 necro and 1 thief with perplexity problem solved.
I don’t think that without stability from a guardian the necro can stand the cc chain that 2 eles can do, and if the necro can’t remove their boons (10 seconds of stability in armor of earth full boon duration) the perplexity thief can’t do much to save him
Hi guys! Me and 2 other people got facerolled by 2 d/d elementalists yesterday in wvw. From what I could observe they were both 0/10/0/30/30 boon duration eles and they were cycling through attunements such that none of them were in water attunement at the same time. Whenever we would immobilize or interrupt one of them the other would come in with updraft or earthquake or pop into water for aoe condi removal. What are some tips for taking on such a setup?
What are you and the other people playing? It depends on the comp if you can counter or not.
Easy face roll you just would need 1 necro and 1 thief with perplexity problem solved.
I don’t think that without stability from a guardian the necro can stand the cc chain that 2 eles can do, and if the necro can’t remove their boons (10 seconds of stability in armor of earth full boon duration) the perplexity thief can’t do much to save him
Well the typical 10/0/30/0/30 perplexity build is a pain to fight with a Necro there it would be worse. This is all hypothetical of course but if I was on my Necro with a P/D perp thief I don’t see a problem spectral wall for protection and area denial range them down force armor of earth. If I have corrupt boon and he has 30 trick stab goes bye bye instantly. After that it is smooth sailing. Ether renewal gets interrupted by necro and thief easily so I see that as a easy win for a P/D thief and Necro 2 classes that I have and played a bit. I know a P/D thief is the cheese and don’t claim it as a skill build at all I prefer power on my thief but P/D is very very effective with perplexity.
The D/D is at a disadvantage in that fight because of ranged pressure you have to eat damage to hit either of those 2 builds and if a necro lays down defensive marks like he should you would be under alot of pressure while he can range with scepter.
I was solo-roaming with the standard 0/20/20/0/30 condi war setup at that time, and the other two guys who were there with me seemed to be a power war and a meditation guard. Granted, the fact that they were coordinated and we were pugs made a difference, but they just seemed to shrug off our damage with their prot/heals/cleanses. I’ve roamed with d/d ele before, but it never really hit me how duo eles become so much stronger than a solo ele.
