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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

maybe 30-40 sec cooldown

would work well with pretty much any build. maybe the next elite spec could have it
what do you think?

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

Next espec wouldn’t have tempest so no point. And fresh air already exists and this on a tempest would be op.

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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

Zintrothen.1056

Next espec wouldn’t have tempest so no point. And fresh air already exists and this on a tempest would be op.

Well, it wouldn’t be completely useless even without Tempest. There are traits that cause effects when you select attunements. Water has a minor trait that AoE heals, and there’s a master trait to AoE condi cleanse; Earth has AoE cripple and damage; Air has a single target lightning bolt and; and Fire has AoE damage and gives you Fire Aura.

The main problem with it is that it would need a cast time so that it’s not OP with Tempest. But with a cast time, it would probably be pointless to take up a utility space for something that would refresh an attunement or two with only a few seconds left. It would probably be more suitable with an elite spec so it can be instant cast without Tempest making it OP.

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reikken.4961

yeah with tempest it would be too much, but I think it would be a great addition to the next spec. even on fresh air builds. you could swap through all your attunements to get 3 air swap procs and whatever other procs and such you get (this takes 3 seconds), then refresh attunements and do it again. or save it for an emergency swap back into earth or water in pvp. never get caught with your pants down. or use it on staff so you can swap out of fire for the utility without dropping your dps to zero. etc. lots of uses

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

Next espec wouldn’t have tempest so no point. And fresh air already exists and this on a tempest would be op.

Strictly speaking the OP never talked about tempest… Why bringing it on the table?

Beside, if looking closely at what’s said, it’s only “instantly refresh attunment”, Nowhere is it said that it refresh tempest overload (which is not an attunment and have a different cool down.) Anyway, whatever you do there will always be 5s before your overload is ready after you switch attunment. Chaining 2 time the same overload with a cool down of 40 second ain’t a big deal.

Honnestly I wouldn’t see any problem with this being introduced as an elite skill. I’m saying elite skill since we already got more than enough skill and incidentally some of our elite skill may be lacking. A signet with the active doing this effect would be pretty usefull without being overpowered at all and could open some new build possibilities without breaking the game in any fashion.

I think it’s a pretty good idea.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

Jski.6180

Ele missing a conj wepon heal and an arcain elite i guess it could fit in the elite but if that all it did then its not worth it.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

Next espec wouldn’t have tempest so no point. And fresh air already exists and this on a tempest would be op.

Strictly speaking the OP never talked about tempest… Why bringing it on the table?

Beside, if looking closely at what’s said, it’s only “instantly refresh attunment”, Nowhere is it said that it refresh tempest overload (which is not an attunment and have a different cool down.) Anyway, whatever you do there will always be 5s before your overload is ready after you switch attunment. Chaining 2 time the same overload with a cool down of 40 second ain’t a big deal.

Honnestly I wouldn’t see any problem with this being introduced as an elite skill. I’m saying elite skill since we already got more than enough skill and incidentally some of our elite skill may be lacking. A signet with the active doing this effect would be pretty usefull without being overpowered at all and could open some new build possibilities without breaking the game in any fashion.

I think it’s a pretty good idea.

Im going to pretend I didn’t see the ‘not op’ line and remind you that there are trade off mechanics for every profession. If you leave and attune meant early you lose those skills. This would only promote skill spamming.

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Posted by: Glacial.9516

Glacial.9516

Definitely in favor of this as the elite arcane signet active with the passive being something not as good but still fitting like 10% boon duration. 40s cd is pretty low (unless it has a moderately high cast time, maybe 1 or 1.25s?). I’d think if instant cast it should be somewhere around 90-120s cd.

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Posted by: Black Iris Flowers.3418

Black Iris Flowers.3418

Next espec wouldn’t have tempest so no point. And fresh air already exists and this on a tempest would be op.

Strictly speaking the OP never talked about tempest… Why bringing it on the table?

Beside, if looking closely at what’s said, it’s only “instantly refresh attunment”, Nowhere is it said that it refresh tempest overload (which is not an attunment and have a different cool down.) Anyway, whatever you do there will always be 5s before your overload is ready after you switch attunment. Chaining 2 time the same overload with a cool down of 40 second ain’t a big deal.

Honnestly I wouldn’t see any problem with this being introduced as an elite skill. I’m saying elite skill since we already got more than enough skill and incidentally some of our elite skill may be lacking. A signet with the active doing this effect would be pretty usefull without being overpowered at all and could open some new build possibilities without breaking the game in any fashion.

I think it’s a pretty good idea.

Im going to pretend I didn’t see the ‘not op’ line and remind you that there are trade off mechanics for every profession. If you leave and attune meant early you lose those skills. This would only promote skill spamming.

Or quick skill chains by people who plan their skill sets before hand.

To the topic: Mesmers have Signet of Illusions that recharge shatter skills, I don’t see why elementalists couldn’t have their own version

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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

mm yes, skill chains in different orders. I didn’t even think of that. Also gives ele better ability to access and follow up on their own CCs. Ele is the worst class in the game at interrupts because of attunements.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

Im going to pretend I didn’t see the ‘not op’ line and remind you that there are trade off mechanics for every profession. If you leave and attune meant early you lose those skills. This would only promote skill spamming.

“Skill spamming?”

The elementalist is already a skill spammer atm. No, this kind of skill wouldn’t be “op”, It would only allow the elementalist to be able to surprise it’s foes by a change of pace when he use it. Should I remind you that elementalist skill have all their separate cool down which aren’t refreshed each time you change attunment?

Or quick skill chains by people who plan their skill sets before hand.

I think that a player that plan before hand it’s skill is, by far, a way better player than a skill spammer. allowing more combination of chained skill throught the introduction of this skill is a lessing that could promote intelligent gameplay.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Valento.9852

Valento.9852

Well, Renewed Focus does this so I don’t think this would be broken as an elite, as long as it gives us something else. Maybe a Signet? Anyone remember the leaked/rumour Signet of Arcana which never came to be?

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Shaman
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Posted by: reikken.4961

reikken.4961

I do not. What was it?

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Posted by: Valento.9852

Valento.9852

I do not. What was it?

It had a passive which would have a chance at giving quickness for 2s upon hitting the enemy, and the active effect was to recharge all attunements.

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