14 seconds of area stealth

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Posted by: Hayashi.3416

Hayashi.3416

You need:

1. Bomb kit
2. Thumper turret
3. Healing turret

Rotation:

1. Lay thumper turret.
2. Lay healing turret.
3. Lay Big Ol’ Bomb while switching to bomb kit.
4. Overcharge thumper turret.
5. Smoke bomb (bomb kit 4).
6. Wait for BoB to blow.
7. Detonate healing turret (blast 1) and thumper turret (blasts 2 and 3 – one from standard detonation and one from delayed overcharge) at the same time BoB detonates (blast 4).
8. Toolbelt skill: rumble (blast 5).

The only delay here is the ~ 1 second it takes to regain control of Rumble after the Thumper blows up. (5×3)-1 = 14 seconds stealth for your party.

It should be capable of stealthrunning you entirely though the usual areas in Caudecus’ Manor. Since Path 1’s solo phase requires stealth on low cooldown a thief is still much better (this rotation’s CD is about 50 seconds), but for Paths 2 and 3 you can solo stealthrun people.

Also applicable for the runs in Twilight Arbor, Ascalonian Catacombs or wherever else you need stealthruns. As a plus, Speedy Kits gives us full personal swiftness uptime, which is always helpful.

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Posted by: Rozbuska.5263

Rozbuska.5263

You dont say:-P Besides if you use shield and flame turret you can stack up to 20s with second smoke field:-)

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

Yes and now you burned 1 utility cooldown for 50s.
You can blast with magnetic inversion, detonate heal turret, big ol’ bomb, rumble and acid bomb and have all your utility slots free!
And it’s like the 100th time I have to mention this but whatever. Flame turret doesn’t create a smoke field unless it has a target that it’s attacking.

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

Wyrden.4713

its weird but, i have only ever managed to stack 9 sec stealth with blast finishers, it stops stacking for me at 9, unless i use toss elixir s, then its 14

so is it so that u can only stack 3 times stealth via finishers?

just my ytb channel

FeintFate~

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

What is the trick to getting it to stack so many times? When I try, I get a similar maybe 9 second timeframe (at best).

Are there tools and tricks to make it easier or more reliable? Are others having trouble getting the hang of it?

I tend to drop HT, then BOB, then smoke, blow turret, magnetic and if I could move fast enough e-gun.

Also, it seems like it is only 2 seconds per blast and not 3 that the Wiki mentions. Correct or am I just having trouble max stacking the combination?

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

Wyrden.4713

What is the trick to getting it to stack so many times? When I try, I get a similar maybe 9 second timeframe (at best).

Are there tools and tricks to make it easier or more reliable? Are others having trouble getting the hang of it?

I tend to drop HT, then BOB, then smoke, blow turret, magnetic and if I could move fast enough e-gun.

Also, it seems like it is only 2 seconds per blast and not 3 that the Wiki mentions. Correct or am I just having trouble max stacking the combination?

in my experience u can get 3 finishers max, then u can use toss elixir s, to get it to 14 s, my guess is stealth is capped to 3 finishers, if gained w finishers, then u can use other stealth skills maybe, like shadow refugee, toss elixir s, and whatever else is out there

just my ytb channel

FeintFate~

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

What is the trick to getting it to stack so many times? When I try, I get a similar maybe 9 second timeframe (at best).

Are there tools and tricks to make it easier or more reliable? Are others having trouble getting the hang of it?

I tend to drop HT, then BOB, then smoke, blow turret, magnetic and if I could move fast enough e-gun.

Also, it seems like it is only 2 seconds per blast and not 3 that the Wiki mentions. Correct or am I just having trouble max stacking the combination?

in my experience u can get 3 finishers max, then u can use toss elixir s, to get it to 14 s, my guess is stealth is capped to 3 finishers, if gained w finishers, then u can use other stealth skills maybe, like shadow refugee, toss elixir s, and whatever else is out there

You can get 5 finishers. Each finisher is 3s but the first tick/second isnt shown. That may give the false idea that it’s only 2s because you see the number after it passed.
Acid bomb is the last you use because it also helps you gain a head start. No need to cancel it.

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Posted by: Hayashi.3416

Hayashi.3416

There is time you need to activate the skills, so if you activate 6 blast finishers within 4 seconds, you run off with 6×3-4 = 14 seconds of stealth. Alternatively, if you activated 3 blasts simultaneously, you’d run off with 8 seconds.

Rather than absolute number of blasts it is important to make sure the time between the first blast and the last is kept as short as possible, or you may end up blowing more skills with less results. This is why thieves spamming shortbow 2 on the smoke wall skill can only stack 12 seconds of stealth (6 blasts within wall duration, 1 blast per second, approximately), and Shadow Refuge stacks 11 (4 pulses of 3 second duration each, 1 pulse per second in addition to the activation stack). Engineer stealth can actually be longer because we can trigger multiple toolbelt skills at the same time.

I use Rifle and Toolkit in my set so it’s not a possibility, but yes, it is entirely possible to raise this to 17 seconds of area stealth by triggering either inversion or acid bomb at the same time as the aforementioned ones for people that use either P/S set or an Elixir Gun kit. That’s a straight ‘or’, if you use ‘both’, the inversion=>elixir gun swap would take 1.5 seconds, meaning the other one is worth only 1 second or so of stealth, a waste of a cooldown.

Timing the activation to the moment BoB explodes is paramount in ensuring max stealth length.

(edited by Hayashi.3416)

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

Ok, maybe this would help a bit more.

I use the following three kits with pistol/shield.
E-Gun, Grenade, Bomb.

What would be the precise combination you would use to stack stealth?
What is the timing? (Do I just mash all the steps as fast as I can?)

In short, I get 2-3 stacks max typically.

Right now it is:

1. HT
2. BOB
3. Smoke Grenade
4. Blow up HT
5. MI
6. If I get it off, Acid Bomb

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

Use BoB first since it’s delayed.
BoB> smoke bomb> healing turret> shield 4> healing turret detonate> thumper toolbelt, switch back to whatever utilities you had since using the toolbelt won’t put the swap on cooldown, toss elixir s when stealth is about to drop. That’s the easiest way I found to stack stealth and it’s usually enough for trash skips.

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