What do you guys think?
(with 2kit im referring to rabid balthazar P/S toolkit + Elixir S)
I really prefer bombs because of the area denial and the huge burn/blind uptime. ALSO, fire and smoke fields that are reaaaallly handy.
But everyone says I should go nades. I really don’t like nades because i miss everyone of them :/
Just because someone said, “btw most ppl use nades instead of bombs?” in the comment of your vid doesn’t mean you should. Double Kit Condi Engi can go either way, so if you prefer Bombs stick with it.
In PvP – running bombs over grenades puts the Engineer at a huge disadvantage in many situations.
You can’t cleave from a distance.
You lose a large component of power damage (not so good for Cele).
You’re unable to hit fleeing enemies with any significant damage, your effective range is practically melee, especially with Rifle.
You’re more susceptible to CC and AoE due to positioning requirements of bombs.
You’re going to be countered more by enemies that can move properly, and or, won’t fight on point.
However, you can stealth allies, and stealth magnet pull every 20s with the right bomb & toolkit build. You can stack might well. It’s not short on utility, it’s just short on combat strength compared to Grenades.
Forum Lord Chaith
Twitch.tv/chaithh
New Twitter: @chaithhh
One is telling me you can go either way, and the other says if be on a huge disadvantage :P
I use rabid so the loss of power dmg isn’t a big deal, and I use pistol with range trait so I have 1050 range on pistol.
Well thanks anywho, I’ll keep testing and see why I like better.
Holl I can tell you from personal experience that its really up to you. There is no great hinderance in distance because in any spvp and tpvp you should not be chasing off point anyways. If they want to run let them. maintain the point and with bombs you have the best way of doing so. I typically run grenades but that is just a personal preference. I have run a triple kit with bombs and really enjoyed it. gives you more ranged as well but do what you enjoy not what ppl tell you. The minute you start to worry about what others have to say on how you should play is the minute you stop enjoying the game for yourself.
when i began to play eng i preferred bombs much more becouse they are simpler to use ( no ground targeting ) . Now that i am quite used to ground targeting i prefer nades . For 2 main reason :
- Nades can be used ranged on groups from far
- when i use nads ( as i usually do ) on my feet i find nades faster to deploy and nades 2,5 and 3 are really strong . It is much easy to blind with nade 3 for me
For using bombs i suggest you to try to take elixir gun and trait 4 in fire arms so that you have max range in EG. EG is really strong and with pistol shield you have much more options for range fights. Now i prefer to use pistol pistol with nades, toolikt and elixir S but it is a little bit different play style
Holl I can tell you from personal experience that its really up to you. There is no great hinderance in distance because in any spvp and tpvp you should not be chasing off point anyways. If they want to run let them. maintain the point and with bombs you have the best way of doing so. I typically run grenades but that is just a personal preference. I have run a triple kit with bombs and really enjoyed it. gives you more ranged as well but do what you enjoy not what ppl tell you. The minute you start to worry about what others have to say on how you should play is the minute you stop enjoying the game for yourself.
Sorry, but these are terrible advices.
Chasing people off point is exactly what you should do if your team has the upper hand, you just need to do it wisely. And letting them run half dead while the node is yours, is obviously some of the worst things you can do…
On topic:
Buildwise i recommend to get used to nades, if you plan to play the “most effective” builds. There simply isnt any build that wouldnt profit by swapping nades in(turrets aside). Remember youre forced to go 6 into strength as well for nades, so this is already very build defining. This might be not cool, but its the truth this is the only way to go to get the most versatile and powerfull builds.
Anyway, play what you enjoy and if youre going for bombs, i recommend to check out slick shoes. They will help you a lot landing your bombs plus giving you a good escape tool. There are lots of builds that can work out well, but the better your opponents are, the more you will see the need for nades.
I think it really depends on what others are running in your group. If you need more condition pressure, go grenades. If you need more crowd control, go bombs. They both lend well to PvP; it’s just a matter of what you need most and how you fit in with the rest of your team.
Personally I never take the bomb kit off. In my personal opinion, it is the best kit the engineer has.
My favorite combination is the Bomb Kit, Elixer Gun and Rocket Boots. When you use this setup with dual pistols and the A.E.D. as a heal, you are practically unstoppable.
Personally I never take the bomb kit off. In my personal opinion, it is the best kit the engineer has.
My favorite combination is the Bomb Kit, Elixer Gun and Rocket Boots. When you use this setup with dual pistols and the A.E.D. as a heal, you are practically unstoppable.
I often run a similar build with P/S. I have been a very strong bomb kit supporter since the betas. I find it very effect in my WvW play with all of the hammer users. As well, I find the shield great with the new ranger crown. Using shield reflect, then rocket booting toward the ranger, is one of my favorite past time. Watching them see their favorite skill only damage them, then see me coming right at them at rocket speed (pun intended) always amuses me, because you can feel the panic of some of them.
