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About Kinetic Battery..

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Posted by: Kaizoku.1298

Kaizoku.1298

Kinetic Battery
After evading a strike, your next tool belt skill is instantly recharged. 40s CD.
Seems nice but then you notice the 8s timer on it. Can it get buffed just a little bit ? It’s kinda annoying to not have any tool belt skills available when this pops up and it has 40s CD so it’s hard to time it.
If the 8s timer gets removed it’ll be a very good trait and when you got a strong tool belt skill on 6-7 seconds CD and has a 1s cast time or something you won’t miss using that skill twice which could let you escape or win some hard fights.

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

Sorel.4870

Unfortunately, nothing was done about that when the trait was meta, despite the numerous threads on this very forum. Now that the traitline does not see a lot of use in competitive pvp, it’s even less likely to change soon. It’s a pity, because it’s a trait with a lot of flavor, but which lacks a simple QoL improvement to really be fun to use.

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Posted by: Kaizoku.1298

Kaizoku.1298

I mean, it’s easy to mess it up you know ? It pops in the middle of a fight and if you used up all your tool belt skills, this trait is wasted for no reason and goes on 40s CD

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Posted by: Mnemesis.8257

Mnemesis.8257

I mean, it’s easy to mess it up you know ? It pops in the middle of a fight and if you used up all your tool belt skills, this trait is wasted for no reason and goes on 40s CD

The point of using this trait is that you need to be an active thinker in order to fully capitalize on its full potential. This trait is a more refined and concentrated version of Chrono’s Continuum mechanic. The most effective application here is to LoS/Block key skills during the first few actions of an encounter and trigger it using a free evade, like Rocket Charge, then follow up with a dodge bait such as Thunderclap. During the 2nd half of their dodge you can hit them with a free Moa; causing many to believe it has been wasted, but leaving a 2nd or even 3rd available to turn many fights in your (team’s) favor.

The possibilities are astounding really, but it is an excellent example of mechanics that require active (preemptive) play. This is something we need more of, not less imo. If timing is an issue for you in this case, try anticipating its return by placing another skill on cool down as an indicator.

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Posted by: Kaizoku.1298

Kaizoku.1298

I mean, it’s easy to mess it up you know ? It pops in the middle of a fight and if you used up all your tool belt skills, this trait is wasted for no reason and goes on 40s CD

The most effective application here is to LoS/Block key skills during the first few actions of an encounter and trigger it using a free evade, like Rocket Charge, then follow up with a dodge bait such as Thunderclap. During the 2nd half of their dodge you can hit them with a free Moa; causing many to believe it has been wasted, but leaving a 2nd or even 3rd available to turn many fights in your (team’s) favor.

But that only works at the start of the fight, and then what ? The fight goes on and you can’t just save your skills hoping that KB is recharged

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Posted by: hornswroggle.8023

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I love kinetic battery just as it is. When paired with the Bulwark gyro it’s straight broken. To any enemy, that has reflectible attacks, this thing is hell on earth. To add the cherry on top in form of Electro whirl (Hammer 2) you can pile up a whapping 20s of bulletproof reflection.

Since most enemies that have a ranged weapon do use it already when you appoach them you can easily avoid at least one of the things they throw at you and BOOM KB proced.
Now you have free reign over what you use it on: Double Bubble (bulwark gyro), 10s of Superspeed and 2 Stunbreaker (Slick shoes), 6s of AoE Superspeed and 2 Stunbreaker (explsion gyro)… you name it.

Plus: while you are in said “Tools”-Line you also have the minor, that lends you vigor whenever you pull a TB for even more dodging. Isn’t that convenient? Did I mention hammer 3?

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Posted by: Mnemesis.8257

Mnemesis.8257

I mean, it’s easy to mess it up you know ? It pops in the middle of a fight and if you used up all your tool belt skills, this trait is wasted for no reason and goes on 40s CD

The most effective application here is to LoS/Block key skills during the first few actions of an encounter and trigger it using a free evade, like Rocket Charge, then follow up with a dodge bait such as Thunderclap. During the 2nd half of their dodge you can hit them with a free Moa; causing many to believe it has been wasted, but leaving a 2nd or even 3rd available to turn many fights in your (team’s) favor.

But that only works at the start of the fight, and then what ? The fight goes on and you can’t just save your skills hoping that KB is recharged

I answered that in the second half of the response. Engineer has always been about a string of actions combined in unison for additional effects. Having access to this larger than normal volume of skills on your bar means that you need to either have an extreme innate sense of time, or the more realistic approach of using specific skills as a landmark for when your rotation is ready. The CD for this landmark skill needs to ballpark to +/- a couple seconds of ALL skills in that combination. In this particular case, you would be designating a keystone skill to represent the impending return of KB.

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Posted by: Kaizoku.1298

Kaizoku.1298

I see your point, but how about a little icon above your skill set that shows if the trait is off CD, like streamlined kits.

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Posted by: hornswroggle.8023

hornswroggle.8023

I see your point, but how about a little icon above your skill set that shows if the trait is off CD, like streamlined kits.

That would be very nice.
The function gyro had a similar thing during the Beta for scrapper. I have no idea why they removed it but it would be nice to have it back.

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Posted by: Mnemesis.8257

Mnemesis.8257

I see your point, but how about a little icon above your skill set that shows if the trait is off CD, like streamlined kits.

There is an icon, it just isn’t present when you approach a fight off CD as it MUST be triggered in order for the icon to present itself. Go into Heart of the Mists and test this and you will see that it is true. The icon displayed above your skill bar matches the very same image paired with the Kinetic Battery trait. This cannot be changed as the prerequisite to trigger KB is that you must first dodge an attack, meaning you are actively engaged in combat, something Streamlined Kits does not require. To have an icon display in the manner you desire would only cause confusion, unless the trait was to be reinvented to behave statically rather than actively (bad idea).

Again. This is a trait that is based upon High Risk/High Reward. It takes patience and skill to have it function effectively as it not only requires situational insight, but also the correct mentality to obtain optimal results.