Always prepared rework

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

Always prepared is an interesting trait that lets you share some of your kits with allies. Too bad it was implemented so awkwardly, then patched by adding a mediocre effect that is only noticeable with #3.

I would just like to see this trait focused on what it is most noticeable for (other than that awkward moment where you died because your friend accidentaly picked up your ft instead of reviving you) which is kit sharing. Instead of dropping kits when down, it can be that your kit is dropped when you press the conveniently named “drop bundle” button.This could open new possibilities for team gameplay and supports the notion of enginer as one of the support classess. Of course if seemingly too strong the dropped kits can be limited to elixir gun and flamethrower. Any thoughts on this?

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Posted by: Anymras.5729

Anymras.5729

I like this idea. It would also give people more of an idea what Engineers are working with, and could lead to some interesting combinations of skills.

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Posted by: JubeiTM.5763

JubeiTM.5763

I’d like to show my friends how the Engineer works.

But this move would change the whole builds. Thief’s with toolkit or Warriors with Bombs. Some classes would find a way to become OP with a kit.

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

lakdav.3694

Of course it would need to be limited, like the elementalist conjure weapon spells. Counting charges of use or time. Recharge time of this ability so that you cant spam the ground with 1sec recharging kit swap and insta-drop the bundle. Ally dropping the kit would remove it from play.

Im not sure how other classes would become OP with kits, seeing that only engineer has traits to use them to their fullest potential.

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Posted by: Anymras.5729

Anymras.5729

Other classes may simply have abilities that can interact in unexpected ways with the abilities Kits possess. We might be the ones with traits regarding the Kits directly, but the effects of the Kits may well play into other classes’ abilities in ways that currently can’t be utilized – things regarding, say, Conditions applied, or breaking of Stealth.

For instance, is Flame Jet a Channeled skill? If so, a Minion Necromancer with the Flamethrower and Dark Armor trait would get a level-dependent Toughness bonus every time they auto-attacked. The Vampiric trait they get at Blood Magic 15 would trigger ten times in the time it takes Flame Jet to run, as well, and that’s not conditional. If the Flame Wall effect also triggers the Vampiric trait…then suddenly a Necromancer has ten hits of Siphon Health on auto-attack, possibly with yet more hits from the Flame Wall, Air Blast’s reflect, and Napalm’s punch-through-and-detonate, as well as Burning. This is something they already have access to, so I’m not sure how much of an issue all this here is, but only if A ) a Necromancer and Engineer are partied together, B ) the Engineer has the Always Prepared trait, and C ) the Engineer is Downed. Overall, it simply seems…easily abused. If I’m not seeing something where there’s nothing (for instance, maybe Kit skills simply do not receive Trait effects from other classes), this might be one of those things that only hasn’t been addressed because the conditions required are somewhat nitpicky.

Looking through the traitlines of other professions, it appears that they’re mostly more narrowly-worded, and thus more likely to be restricted in ways that prevent activity with passed-off Kits, with the main exceptions being on-critical traits.

(edited by Anymras.5729)

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

There would have to be a drawback to this. I’m thinking that when you drop the kit you are unable to use it while an ally is. Give it a time limit & charges like elemental weapons. So we drop our ToolKit, thief picks it up, we can’t use it while he has it, thief shadowsteps to enemy, prybar, caltrop, drop kit, we can use it again. Treat it like you’re actually dropping the kit. Just don’t make us pick it back up again.

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