Apothecary or Rabid for WvW?

Apothecary or Rabid for WvW?

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Posted by: Dojo.1867

Dojo.1867

Can people that have full Apothecary sets pls offer feedback?

I have a full Rabid set since release but ye … only reason for the precision is pretty much proccing sigil of earth and the 2 traits a bit. I just don’t know if all the healing power wouldn’t be more worth it?

Speaking about a pistol/shield (pistol/pistol) and bombs (grenades) + elixirs build. So due to elixirs propably also high regeneration uptime.

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Posted by: PWNcakesAndROFLs.8263

PWNcakesAndROFLs.8263

Stick with Rabid.

Firstly, Apothecary is very expensive, if you want to go all out be prepared to spend 100g+. I’m not sure how your play-style is but you’ll also be losing condition damage in favor of healing power. Rabid is also the best set for grenades in a condition damage set-up as you can proc extra stacks of vulnerability and bleeds. It also has bad synergy with the Inventions trait line, which converts toughness and healing power into power.

If you planned on spreading yourself thin from the beginning, then Apothecary might be good as it boosts the overall low base stats of both Healing Power and Condition damage. Honestly though, healing power just isn’t powerful enough to justify investing heavily into it. If you’re ikittenerg chances are people are popping off water-fields left in right as well, which heal for more.

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Posted by: Dojo.1867

Dojo.1867

I guess you are right. Also you still have to consider direct damage for the pistol/shield and kit skills. Pistol autoattack direct dmg – as low as it may be – will still hit for some nice AoE with this bit of precision and the 10+ might stacks that are also common in elixir builds.

I gues Apothecary really is a niche item that as you said will cost quite a lot. And still for 80% of condition builds Rabid will be the better offer.

May I ask what Ascended Amulet you bought for your condition engis?

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Posted by: Sporadicus.1028

Sporadicus.1028

I’d go for a combination. Rabid is only available as a trinket. If you go both, you’ll get precision and condition damage (which is a condition eng’s bread and butter) as well as some toughness and healing.

I currently use Apothecary Armor and pistols, and use Rabid Trinkets.

True, Apothecary isn’t cheap, but I also invested in rares to start, which range between 40-70s a piece in my server’s market.

Malkin Rawl – Charr Engineer, Tarnished Coast
Loudmouth, lousy PvPer, and mediocre PvEer.
I don’t own, I just play

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

You can buy Rabid armor at the temple’s of Orr Sporadicus! It’s one og the easiset armor setus to get ^^

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Posted by: Sporadicus.1028

Sporadicus.1028

Murf? Really? I’ll have to check that out, then! Thanks for the intel, Amadeus!

Malkin Rawl – Charr Engineer, Tarnished Coast
Loudmouth, lousy PvPer, and mediocre PvEer.
I don’t own, I just play

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Posted by: Siofra Crumble.2098

Siofra Crumble.2098

in my server’s market.

The trading post is global across all servers.

As for the topic I’m sporting a mix between carrion and rampager trinkets with PvT gear for WvW. (Using bombs and pistol/shield)

(edited by Siofra Crumble.2098)

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Posted by: Maullus.1273

Maullus.1273

I’m curious—and condition builds are a bit of a blind spot for me—why is there no mention of Rampager gear?

I can understand why Carrion isn’t mentioned, as it has no Precision. I get that. But a condition based grenade build seems like it would double-dip with Power/Precision/Condition Damage. I don’t know that I’d go all Rampager, but Rampager/Rabid gear/trinkets, or vice versa, seems like it would be a pretty solid approach.

Again, I’m just curious; I’d love to hear a good explanation for why Rampager/Rabid would not be a wise approach compared to an alternative.

Mad Maullix
Tarnished Coast
Panic Time!

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Posted by: Eastcorn.5901

Eastcorn.5901

Rampager would offer the best DPS for a p/p condition build, but it is pretty much the condition damage version of berserkers, meaning full glass cannon.

Since p/p engineers often skirt close to melee ranges of other professions, many people prefer some survivability stats.

At least, that’s my take on it.

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

@Eastcorn that’s one of the reasons yeah, that’s it’s good to have some toughness and viatality, because condition damage is a matter about outlasting people!
Another reason, and the problem with Rampager is the “big” stat on it, is precision, and when doing a condition damage build, you want the big stat to be condition damage most of the time, and that’s the main reason I mix Rabid and Carrion armor for getting the stats I want when doing condition damage builds!