Can we talk about the downed state?

Can we talk about the downed state?

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Posted by: VIVorcha.7853

VIVorcha.7853

Please?

We can all unite to agree that our downed skills suck, right?

The 1 skill applies a random condition, making the DPS from it not reliable enough to achieve a rally.

The 2 skill only hits a single target and INVITES THEM INTO MELEE RANGE TO STOMP YOU. The 2 skill in the downed state is supposed to be defensive, and bringing an enemy closer does not fall into that category. The only thing going for it is that it interrupts, but all the other 2 skills do that better.

The 3 skill takes forever to warm up, and it’s just not worth it. It should have been our 2 skill. All of the other classes can either escape or heal with their 3 skill. Instead, we get an average AOE control with a huge warm-up and cooldown.

Can we switch the 3 skill to slot 2, and get a new 3 skill?

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Posted by: Obscure One.4357

Obscure One.4357

Please?

We can all unite to agree that our downed skills suck, right?

The 1 skill applies a random condition, making the DPS from it not reliable enough to achieve a rally.

The 2 skill only hits a single target and INVITES THEM INTO MELEE RANGE TO STOMP YOU. The 2 skill in the downed state is supposed to be defensive, and bringing an enemy closer does not fall into that category. The only thing going for it is that it interrupts, but all the other 2 skills do that better.

The 3 skill takes forever to warm up, and it’s just not worth it. It should have been our 2 skill. All of the other classes can either escape or heal with their 3 skill. Instead, we get an average AOE control with a huge warm-up and cooldown.

Can we switch the 3 skill to slot 2, and get a new 3 skill?

I think downed states will get an overhaul after this MLG attempt fails at putting GW2 on the e-sport radar. Due in large part to this “from zero to hero” Elementalist down state bull &$#@. I’d personally like to see #3 moved to #2 as you suggest and an RNG elixir on skill #3 that can proc Vengeance or Vapor Form. “Elixir V” perhaps?

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Posted by: Mighty Favazz.1546

Mighty Favazz.1546

Nah, they all kind of suck. We suck a little more than others, but it should be enough incentive to not get downed.

What I will comment on though, is that I don’t think power engies should be punished with down state abilities. Or rather, condi engies should not be rewarded.

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

Theres like no way our downed state is even on their radar right now, which is a shame. I do hate being unable to fight back but I dont think well ever see such a nice change for engie. Best I can hope for is to remove weakness and freeze from 1.

(starts chanting) Down with rng! But not on our down!

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Posted by: Requiem.8769

Requiem.8769

It isn’t relatively terrible. To be honest, I’d rather have all downstates be weak than the alternative.

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Posted by: FirstInfantry.2795

FirstInfantry.2795

I dont understand the complaints about engineer downstate well i do get ours are not exactly the better among the other classes but the fact is once you are downed you are pretty much already finished and one stomp away. On one note there are times that an ele has vapor formed to safety because they died right beside a structure that belongs to their server or a warrior rallies after popping vengeance, but realluy how viable are those skills for even those classes. When a warrior pops veagance I simply make sure to get out of their range and let them die, and in the open field the ele can vapor form you know its coming just fake stomp force them to use their vapor form then chase in for the real stomp. Usually its guaranteed with elixir s or toss elixir s. When I die on engineer its simply my que to get a drink of water or something even if our down state was improved it will be just like the other classes once you are downed you are pretty much dead anyway unless you hav a group or allies with a strategy on our to win the rally game such as battlestandard, illusionof life or stealth rezzes from mesmer, theif or engineer. I just dont see how it is relevant to fix the downstate. In fact, I dont want to see another class with another annoying down state.

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Posted by: Adamantium.3682

Adamantium.3682

It isn’t relatively terrible. To be honest, I’d rather have all downstates be weak than the alternative.

Couldn’t agree more. I would rather argue other downed states are too good than ours is too bad. I would like to see all downed states as weak as ours.

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Posted by: Knote.2904

Knote.2904

Should just make #3 skill be a suicide bomb that does a CRAP load of dmg.

Then make #1 a decent attack.

Hell I think every class downed state should be that way.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

The problem is that the downed states are so very very unbalanced. Some classes get a 100% stomp prevention regardless of how many are stomping… while others… get a single target projectile that pulls them closer.

It’s 3 skills (4th is universal). Balanced them.

Dev’s… it’ll help get sPvP closer to being an e-sport

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