Guild Wars 2

What’s the best Engi roaming build for WvW right now?

Scrapper is Solid, but it’s not cheese. If we have a cheese it’d be like Full Dire with P/P and FT, Kinetic Battery to double up on that toolbelt skill, load up burning after draining their condi clears with some ‘light’ condi’s then blast them and sneak gyro… something like that.

But, honestly with how strong scrapper is, just get good with that and you won’t need to run cheese you’re just strong enough to run on your own.

Another cheese option might be maximizing disengage options.

We don’t really have a perma stealth Thief or PU mesmer type thing, that’s just more annoying than strong against good players, but kills all poorly built or bad players easily. A good player will see that condi build coming, wait for us to load them up, cleanse, heal and just run away and laugh because we’re not worth killing in dire and the fact that we’re using it is because we suck at the game >.<

Jerus.4350:

Scrapper is Solid, but it’s not cheese. If we have a cheese it’d be like Full Dire with P/P and FT, Kinetic Battery to double up on that toolbelt skill, load up burning after draining their condi clears with some ‘light’ condi’s then blast them and sneak gyro… something like that.

Never ever seen anything remotely similar to that and I fight T1 cheese gankers on a daily basis with my own p/p scrapper (rabid/celestial, not dire lol). 95% of scrappers will be power hammer which can be pretty darn annoying. I have seen 4 people give chase to 1 scrapper and failing to kill him because its all blockreflectblockevadestealthblockblockreflectblock…

If OP wants true cheese then condi mesmer or condi thief is the proper things to look into, yes.

I play scrapper and mesmer in spvp. Are you sure that rolling a condi chrono mesmer is so simple ? playing scrapper is quite trival … it is warrior 2.0 a melee weapon with a block … a range weapon (eg ) and some simple combos … nothing similar to old condition engineer.
Mesmer mechanic is much more difficult to play imho becouse for every thing you do you have to pay attention at your clones : heals come for clones, condi removal comes for clones and damage comes for clones . If you shatter when your clones are not at the right position you lose all your damage , even with condition chronomancer. If you waste your mobility skills you are easy to take down. I played engi since 2012, i really loved P/P engi but now scrapper is much stronger but also boring, so i switched to something different. I can assure you that at begin , kill someone of the same level in 1 vs 1 with mesmer is not easy at all. When you learn it … ok , it is really a strong strong class… but it is not immediate like scrapper or warrior or other classes. try it and tell me if i am wrong

PierPiero.9142:

I play scrapper and mesmer in spvp. Are you sure that rolling a condi chrono mesmer is so simple ? playing scrapper is quite trival … it is warrior 2.0 a melee weapon with a block … a range weapon (eg ) and some simple combos … nothing similar to old condition engineer.
Mesmer mechanic is much more difficult to play imho becouse for every thing you do you have to pay attention at your clones : heals come for clones, condi removal comes for clones and damage comes for clones . If you shatter when your clones are not at the right position you lose all your damage , even with condition chronomancer. If you waste your mobility skills you are easy to take down. I played engi since 2012, i really loved P/P engi but now scrapper is much stronger but also boring, so i switched to something different. I can assure you that at begin , kill someone of the same level in 1 vs 1 with mesmer is not easy at all. When you learn it … ok , it is really a strong strong class… but it is not immediate like scrapper or warrior or other classes. try it and tell me if i am wrong

WVW dire (condi dam, vit, though) perplexity condi mesmers are more forgiving/stronger then PVP condi mesmers builds. Bad players perform really well with them.

PierPiero.9142:

I play scrapper and mesmer in spvp. Are you sure that rolling a condi chrono mesmer is so simple ? playing scrapper is quite trival … it is warrior 2.0 a melee weapon with a block … a range weapon (eg ) and some simple combos … nothing similar to old condition engineer.
Mesmer mechanic is much more difficult to play imho becouse for every thing you do you have to pay attention at your clones : heals come for clones, condi removal comes for clones and damage comes for clones . If you shatter when your clones are not at the right position you lose all your damage , even with condition chronomancer. If you waste your mobility skills you are easy to take down. I played engi since 2012, i really loved P/P engi but now scrapper is much stronger but also boring, so i switched to something different. I can assure you that at begin , kill someone of the same level in 1 vs 1 with mesmer is not easy at all. When you learn it … ok , it is really a strong strong class… but it is not immediate like scrapper or warrior or other classes. try it and tell me if i am wrong

SPvP is not WvW. Without the restriction of standing on a 3×3m point barely large enough to dodge through a condi mesmer can outplay everything.

santenal.1054:

PierPiero.9142:

I play scrapper and mesmer in spvp. Are you sure that rolling a condi chrono mesmer is so simple ? playing scrapper is quite trival … it is warrior 2.0 a melee weapon with a block … a range weapon (eg ) and some simple combos … nothing similar to old condition engineer.
Mesmer mechanic is much more difficult to play imho becouse for every thing you do you have to pay attention at your clones : heals come for clones, condi removal comes for clones and damage comes for clones . If you shatter when your clones are not at the right position you lose all your damage , even with condition chronomancer. If you waste your mobility skills you are easy to take down. I played engi since 2012, i really loved P/P engi but now scrapper is much stronger but also boring, so i switched to something different. I can assure you that at begin , kill someone of the same level in 1 vs 1 with mesmer is not easy at all. When you learn it … ok , it is really a strong strong class… but it is not immediate like scrapper or warrior or other classes. try it and tell me if i am wrong

WVW dire (condi dam, vit, though) perplexity condi mesmers are more forgiving/stronger then PVP condi mesmers builds. Bad players perform really well with them.

Ok i have to buy these kittening perplexity runes

xD I’ve resorted to a cheese build just because I was tired of the 10v1 roaming.

Running full Dire with Perplexity Runes, TK, BK or GK and either RB or Elixir S. Depending on the situation I’ll run with Mortar Kit or switch to Soup Crate.