Guild Wars 2

Sososo, I noticed something today.

Engies got really good. I mean, reeeeally good.

They were always good, but not this good good. Three engies carry a team type good now.

This is bad, because if we don’t stay a medium high class, we might get hit with the nerf bat again and lose sum of our toys. I dunno if it’s the balth runes or the new toys or what, but now builds that went pew pew boom splosions go PEW PEW DIAH!

I dun wanna see our good stuff like ICP and bumbs and ’nades go the way of tha hundred ’nade (RIP).

Any ideas as to what changed that might be doin’ this to us, and/or how it might be tuned down without kneecapping us with a sledgehammah?

How are we better? Everything that the public claimed made us strong was nerfed. One of the two grenades that do damage was nerfed by 40% of its condition damage. There is no reason what so ever to believe either bombs or grenades will get a nerf. Although grenades always seem to find some way to get publicly scrutinized till Anet does something to limit them further.

Only immobile turrets, and gadgets got any actual buffs. Neither of which particularly made the profession strong by any real means, as they were bother either under powered or extremely bug riddled.

Engineers were always good. The only thing that changed was your perception. Simply because you saw a few of us work our magic. (got to love the irony in that term)

@dancing monkey Rune of balthazar seems to be the issue at least from everything I’ve read so far.

I just cannot see much coming out of those runes that makes the profession as a whole, particularly that much stronger. It is not as if the profession lacked in burning or condition damage stat before.

Particularly with 3 engineers in a group as he mentioned. 1 engineer could keep burn up in an AoE 100% of the time previously, so I see no changes there.

OMG! Are you THE dancingmonkey?! The #5286th ranked engi in NA and world’s last rank 80?!

It’s an honor!

Heh, engineer magic. I see what you did there…

But nah, the poison duration thing didn’t really matter, since we can almost keep perma poison up without it, and the ’nades automatically do bleeds and burns when you spec into icp, shrap, and that one thingy in firearms. (Protip: Glueshot and point blank nade toolbelt still does lotsa condition damage when you can land it). What it means is we get reeeally good burst conditions when we try, and the burns just keep going and going and going…

Flaming energizer bunny? But no, it’s bad because strong condition builds get nurfed. Even if we were already strong, we’re stronger since new runes and warriors being slightly less good. Means ICP may go the way of dhuumfire or we could see a nerf to condition damage overall… Hopefully not, but good chance since necro and engy are two of the strongest thingies right now and they both are really good at condition.

But perception is key, you’re right. Maybe it’s just people realizing that this stuff works, and using it more? Regardless, people call us OP and QQ on balance about condition meta, which is not gud.

Also, why the expansionary terms? I’ve been engy since Beta event 2, it’s not like I’m some thief going “qq why engy so gud at burn?” I just don’t like being nerfed because we accidentally are amazing.

Oh, did ya know that atomosophobia is fear of atomic explosions? The more you knoooooow…

PS: I was ona them engies. We were carrying an afk guard and a p/p thief. Was just like, “kitten?” the whole time.

Well, partly it depend on what context you carried them in. Are we talking dungeons, a world event, a WvW havoc group? tPvP? The context really makes a difference when it comes to this discussion.

Which expansionary terms? What made the terms themselves expansionary?

Whoops, meant exclusionary, phone auto corrected. You spoke like I wasn’t an engy, which made me a sad panda.

And S/tPvP, always.

Because you said “3 engies” instead of “myself and 2 other engies” making it appear you were speaking from the outside looking in on those 3.

Of course later you said “our” so I should of picked up on that. My mistake for the misinterpretation.

Stop throwing those banana peels at my feel, your tripping me up.

So, back on topic, how do you think we will or could be toned down to not seem so goodly? I’d hate to see nerfs across the board, but it might be a thing.

I do not feel that we “seems” so good. I was in WvW a large part of the day and I played about an hour on each, my warrior, guardian, engineer, and ranger, and about twenty minutes on my mesmer (all 80s). Nothing about how it felt to me suggested there is any reason for anyone to feel the engineer needs toned down or has any reason to be seen as increasingly strong.

People made 177 threads about warriors being OP with healing signet and it got a whopping 8% nerf.

Hundreds of post over tens of threads complain that stealth is OP, and it never gets touched.

The list goes on and on. Just because people complain about something, or feel something is trong, does not mean it validates a need for a change.

digitalruse.9085:

OMG! Are you THE dancingmonkey?! The #5286th ranked engi in NA and world’s last rank 80?!

It’s an honor!

Haha, good one! =)