Condi Engi WvW? :<

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

Hello engineers
I used to play quite some condi engi in WvW before all the big patches, but haven’t touched my engi since. I’m trying to get my build together but I’ve hit multiple dead ends where I just don’t know what to do… I’d appreciate it very much if anyone could help me get on the right track again

My current build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqelUUh+sYJXwvLw6FLsFFYIWiBg4GVF34YOOGfBA-TVSGwAAUCmZ/BO6ACpFgpSEYq/U4BAsU5FhTAApAgZaE-w

What I’m looking for: Condition engineer for WvW (solo) roaming. Primarily using bombs, toolkit and P/S. NO SCRAPPER… I’m too lazy to get all those hero points X)

Some of my dead ends:
1. What traitlines?! All of them have some useful things, but apart from firearms none seem ‘amazing’. All the grandmaster’s are ‘meh’ for condi engi, apart from incendiary powder…
2. I’m guessing Alchemy is worth a slot, but it seems like I would HAVE to run some elixirs with it, but that would be hard since I want my Healing turret, bomb and toolkit :<
3. Runes? Currently using balthazar, but with my setup I think I might be getting TOO much burning. I thought that scavenging and undead would be some nice alternatives, but again, I’m not sure…
4. Condi clears are still lacking. Is HT enough for casual roaming?

That’s pretty much it, thanks in advance for any input
-Hollts

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Posted by: Mahkno.7593

Mahkno.7593

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Posted by: Tor.1365

Tor.1365

There are a few options that could tweak this. I think the main issue at the moment is too much focus on sustain, you run the risk of stalemating versus tankish specs. Some possibilities:

  • Burst harder, eg. with more burning:
    Either pick up an off hand pistol (blowtorch) or flamethrower (incidiary ammo), or both.
  • Might stacking and/or Condition variety:
    HGH trait and pick up elixir gun and mortar. Both will give you plenty of poison stacks, and the e-gun autos pack more punch that pistol. The might and condi-cleanse triggers from e-gun 4,5 & toolist, and the mortar 5.

    Note that either of these options involves giving up some defense – you either lose your shield or your toolkit. I suggest trying them out – the ‘burstiness’ of the first option might mean winning fights faster. But the second option is going to give you much more sustain – via 4 extra condi cleanses, 2 extra heals + regen, a short cooldown stun break and another water field (good for BoB blasts).

I think you will prefer option 2 – you’ll have a good matchup in most fights. But option 1 can be really fun to play around with, so you should give that a shot too

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Posted by: Haralin.1473

Haralin.1473

I ran a build in the past that looks like that

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqelUUh+sYJXwELw6FLpFFYJuiHw3TFANw4PmGlBA-TFSGABAoEcD9AKpkr39HgR9nCeAALpco4TAApAgZNA-w

It is focused on confusion with Bombkit/toolkit/grenadekit, grenadekit can be switched for elixir gun (more heal more Condi remove) or an elixir of your choice. Elite can be switch to Mortar.

Maybe it can help you to build something that fits you. The Wolfineer Build is very good, but there is no Bombkit in it

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(edited by Haralin.1473)

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Posted by: Tor.1365

Tor.1365

Just a little addendum, this is my preferred burst option – no bombs or toolkit though, but you might want to take a look.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalUUhatY7Ww8KQ7FLsFF4HWiBg4GVFPxYOOGfBA-TFSGABAoEMj9Hy9EAwkSEYU/ZJlXG8AAYTPApAgZaE-w

I-ammo + blowtorch + napalm is your main point-blank burst, cover up with quickness fired condi – bleed / confusion / poison / weakness. Use poison stacks and bleeds when burning is on CD.

  • Melee defense: Use FT+mortar blinds,
  • Kiting and landing bursts: FT-knockback, glue shot, elixir-F, chill shell
  • Cleanse/might-stack: e-gun + mortar
  • Heal: HT, e-gun 5, mortar 5. 4 blasts are available for blasting water fields
  • Ranged defense – Toss elixir U reflects

I often swap out elixir-U for elixir-S; good if you want to stealth jump on someone, but you do leave yourself with few range defense options.

Also, for some fights it is worth running kinetic battery so you can get a double incendiary ammo.

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Posted by: lmaogg.7325

lmaogg.7325

Burns OP, I normally just run p/p with rocket boots for the gap closer/escape/blast finisher and of course the toolbelt burn.

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Posted by: Mahkno.7593

Mahkno.7593

The Wolfineer Build is very good, but there is no Bombkit in it

switch grenadier for glass cannon and (maybe) aim assisted rocket for short fuse if you want to use bombs instead of grenades.

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Posted by: basz.6129

basz.6129

Dude, I said the same thing about scrapper and the hero points. Just go do it. You can’t help but pick up heroic notary coins or whatever they are called. 1=1 hero point, and they count towards map conpletion. Spending the coins gives you the needed points, and completes the hero challenges/power points in open world

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Posted by: Jim.9532

Jim.9532

I’m in a similar situation as I haven’t played engi since before the July 23rd patch.

With regards to gear I’m working towards the following – trailblazers armor, givers weapons, rabid trinkets.

Lots of Condi duration, Condi damage, toughness and some precision for popping traits and some vitality for survival.

I haven’t got it all yet but I think it’ll work well.

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Posted by: Pride.1734

Pride.1734

Roaming or wvw in general without the alchemy tree is not a great idea. You need it to deal with all the condi spam.

I usually play with alchemy firearms and tools. Healing Turret, Flamethrower, Toolkit(or bombs), elixir s and mortar(or elixir x)

Flamethrower gives you obscene burst. TK gives you active defense while the bomb kit adds damage. Elixir S is vital because stealth still rules roaming. Mortar is overall pretty usefull and kinda makes up for the lack of grenades. Elixir x on the other hand is basicly a kill combo if you land the toolbelt right after applying lots of burns.

Since you absolutely want TK and BK you could drop the FT and see how you roll with that.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalUUhatYJXw+KQ7FLsFF4HWiBgYHNFPxYOOG/IA-T1RHABVs/Qhq/cnSQBOBAopHAgHAwRK/AA-w

(edited by Pride.1734)