Condition Engi = Counter to melee builds

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Posted by: Xioki.8743

Xioki.8743

I play a p/s condition engi (with hybrid stats, about 1300-1400 in each stat) and a flamethrower. I love running around in wvw and 1v1ing people. I’ve read a lot of people complaining about engis compared to warriors, etc. But I’ve noticed that I can easily kill greatsword warriors and glass cannon thieves that sneak up on me. How? CC. As engis we have more cc than any other class. Laying down all my dots (+burning from flamethrower belt skill) and knocking back melee classes = half their health gone and I’m untouched. And if I miss a cc, I have 2 more in my arsenal (flamethrower 3 and shield 5). And that’s not including the blinds. Melee builds can’t touch me. A glass cannon thief that ambushes me can knock down half my health in the first couple of strikes but after that, I knock him back, lay down all my dots and he’s done for because he can’t touch me after that….they usually die from my dots or run away. Lol. Guardians give me more trouble due to their condition removal, but the great thing about the pistol is very short cds, plus some smart play (ex. opening with an auto attack to take out that first agesis) and they are no different. Played the engi since beta, and I’ve found that an engi is not really a ranged class in the traditional sense. They have a lot of natural toughness and vitality and are kind of made to be close to their enemy, until they knock you back and take you down…that goes for a rifle engi too. Knowing your class and knowing your enemy > what profession you play. Not to say that engis don’t have problems, but what class doesn’t?

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

You dont even need a condition build to beat melee. What lets you beat melee is all the cc we can have. I run a tanky rifle built but I eat melee classes simply because of net shot, net turret and net attack. You run with pushbacks but its still efectively the same. I’m sure as an engineer, that is where most of our strength lies on.

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Posted by: Xioki.8743

Xioki.8743

I agree, I just enjoy condition more because the enemy doesn’t even notice their health is gone until I down them lol. Plus the shield gives me two cc abilities haha.

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Posted by: Bargaw.4832

Bargaw.4832

Anything can kill glass cannon it if survives it’s burst…

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Posted by: Rfreak.6591

Rfreak.6591

Conditions definitely can’t win vs burst builds, maybe tanks can, but condition-only focused builds can’t, because of the simple fact that, while your attacks take some seconds to be fully dangerous, a burst attack gets its damage instantly done.

“knocking back” isn’t a condition, it’s an utility/cc, thieves got utilities too, better ones on top of it.

The OP should, at least, change the topic name as it’s kinda misleading.

If you meant that conditions work better with cc/knockbacks/immobilize, well… everything works better with those…

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Posted by: Kamahl.3621

Kamahl.3621

When you see someone meleeing you, do a 360 and walk away. And throw grenades over your shoulder.

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

When you see someone meleeing you, do a 360 and walk away. And throw grenades over your shoulder.

180*

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Posted by: Lysico.4906

Lysico.4906

When you see someone meleeing you, do a 360 and walk away. And throw grenades over your shoulder.

lol why would I spin in a circle and face them?

180 you mean

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Posted by: Kamahl.3621

Kamahl.3621

lol why would I spin in a circle and face them?

180 you mean

180*

Glad to see the joke is lost on some people.

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Posted by: Oxstar.7643

Oxstar.7643

Knowing your class and knowing your enemy > what profession you play. Not to say that engis don’t have problems, but what class doesn’t?

THIS! I declare this as the forum quote of the year. I’ll make sure to reference you every time I use it =)

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Posted by: KICKER.3874

KICKER.3874

If you`re afraid of melee try Bomb Kit. Since I`ve started using it I can`t believe how much I own thieves and squishy warriors, it`s really satisfying.

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Posted by: mifbifgiggle.6713

mifbifgiggle.6713

condition engi = counter to everything. the only thing i ever lose to (including all other classes, glass cannon or not) is a REALLY good mesmer.

This only applies to 1v1s. Engis are the kings of 1v1s.

Mr Flintlock, lvl 80 Engineer
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