Guild Wars 2

No other profession whining here, just a curious engineer why so many ppl in pvp are outrageous about one of the WORST setups (IMO) out there!

“Noob111 Conditioneer op nref l2p”…Keep hearing that over and over again by the rare occasions I clearly win a 1on1 with dat build(thieves not counted, they are poor scrubs vs any condi build) even trapper-rangers and burnstack mediguards recite these words when they lost…

However when playing Conditioneer I hardly kill kitten with this bullpoo of a setup…and do ten times better when playing soldier or marauder rifle, I even win more 1v1 but no one is outrageous about.

When using condis I am somewhat similar geared and traited to “Dual Kit Condi” build on metabattle.
My only offensive pressure is burn via blowtorch (when P/P) and incendiary powder, if that is cleansed/blinded/blocked/evaded/immuned my pressure is almost non existent as bleedings applied by geomancy sigil and shrapnels are horrible, poison via mortar/pistol 2 doesnt do much. Defense is horrible too, not to mention how incredible bad you are in a condi vs condi fight, you are focus target no1 and defensive skills are atrocious, you get ripped apart by condis you are unable to cleanse before when in elixir s and toolkitshield is pierced by more and more skills

I am really curious to hear the reasons why conditioneer is ought to be such a super noob and stronk build (I hardly see any other engineer running condis these days) while marauder/soldier rifle are so legit not to compare other classes condi builds bringing a lot more pressure+defense+condicleanse without the effort to groundtargeting a lot+swapping through kits and bars than conditioneer does.

Enlighten me, folks!

dont blame them i have ppl /w and say "I HATE YOU "

15k burning

IP + IA + rocket kick + torchblow and FT !

if i get these kind of /w IM SO HAPPY i made someone day sour :P

pure rabid + undead rune

It’s PvP, what do you expect? Most people there take it way too seriously, and see your victory as a personal insult to them. They’ll retaliate however they think will hurt your feelings like you’ve hurt theirs.

^ Pretty much this. Any type of pvp with other players result in flaming, because you can communicate with them. Then you got other factors like “Are they hungry?, Have they lost alot, do they complain among themselves and bring themselves down?,” "Was so sure I could atleast beat sh**y condi engie atleast*.

I think people running the easiest and most “OP builds” gets raged on.
And I think people clearly running the worst builds but wins gets raged on

Yeah, I toyed around with condi engine and got whispers like, “condis ruining this game” or “f you noob”. And all I can think is “Wow, if they think this is bad they should see me on my power build.” Lol

Problem is, you get one necro, and and its over. he’ll transfer the condis back on yuo and you’ll implode. And a condi engi has no other dmg other than condi (if p/p), do the best you can hope for is to nail him with the ip-bt-rb-ft and then immediately moa him when he shrouds

I found supply crate works great for condi engi. Run up in stealth, supply crate then condi burst and hope they die. Long cooldown kill but great at capturing a contested side point.

Shaogin.2679:

Yeah, I toyed around with condi engine and got whispers like, “condis ruining this game” or “f you noob”.

This is the case for any engineer build that ever have been viable. Remember turret engineer? or decap engineer… or our short time coated grenades. people hated a lot on celestial engineers too.

Poor turret engi. I wouldn’t wish a nerf of that level on my worst enemy.

Ooh I almost forgot our earliest build: The houndred nades . That build got hit so hard, kit refinement was never used again.

Are.1326:

Ooh I almost forgot our earliest build: The houndred nades . That build got hit so hard, kit refinement was never used again.

Yep, dat video was is legend and the redesign of kit refinement was atrocious. xD

Burning abuse, a well timed clear mitigates it almost completely.

Enjoy it while you can, burning will soon get a hit.

I love using condi spec on my Engie to destroy OP thieves and Mesmers.

Haters gonna hate, scrubs gonna scrub, nooblets will still be nooblets.

Toolbox.9375:

It’s PvP, what do you expect? Most people there take it way too seriously, and see your victory as a personal insult to them. They’ll retaliate however they think will hurt your feelings like you’ve hurt theirs.

Most people blame everything just not themself. Wrong builds, inferior skill, less knowledge but they never consider that they are at fault. Oh well. I always ignored such whispers

I have 3 Engi and tend to play a certain “type” of build on each. Sometimes I’m getting a lot of hate from ppl about what I’m running, then the salty tears will dry up for a while while they go rage about some other build. Then they’ll come back a few months later to tell me how noob my build is again. It’s just totally random, you play what you like and then wait around to see whether scrubs and baddies are going to come crying that what you happen to be running is currently considered “OP” or not.

condi eng is strong but it is far less strong than before june patch. The fact that now you can not take explosive and incendiary powder was a good nerf ( right in my opinion ).
In this moment, for me , elixir condi engi can be stronger . Try it with rabid, eg, elixir S elixir B … it is quite op. Take the build in draft of metabattle and modify it with balthazar sigils and elixir X as elite ( for pvp at least ) . With 6 sec stealth every 17 sec, 6 sec 5 stab every 17 sec and elixir S every 24 secs or so ( from trait of alchemy and for elixir) it is really op. And toolkit elixir X helps you a lot against necroes …

PierPiero.9142:

condi eng is strong but it is far less strong than before june patch. The fact that now you can not take explosive and incendiary powder was a good nerf ( right in my opinion ).
In this moment, for me , elixir condi engi can be stronger . Try it with rabid, eg, elixir S elixir B … it is quite op. Take the build in draft of metabattle and modify it with balthazar sigils and elixir X as elite ( for pvp at least ) . With 6 sec stealth every 17 sec, 6 sec 5 stab every 17 sec and elixir S every 24 secs or so ( from trait of alchemy and for elixir) it is really op. And toolkit elixir X helps you a lot against necroes …

Those numbers are way off. This build isn’t OP its just not possible. You wont get much from those runes of balthazar either if you aren’t running FT.

Necro current meta has 2 skill that go through block. A good one will use them to interrupt TK shield.

you have cd reduction from hgh and from tool line . The only wrong number is elixir S. You have one every 48 secs from skill and 1 every 60 sec from trait .. and the stack of stability are 3 and not 5 … i reserve toss elixir X (moa) for rampager or lich form .
Look yourself . I was at work when i wrote that post so it was not accurated, sorry for that .
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalcTh6rY7Ww6KQ+FLsF1YOOGfB4HWiBgYHNFPBA-TJhIABQs/AAnAAiKDw7DAAA

it is strange. The game client gives me different cd time for elixir S …. 48 and 32 for toss elixir S) secs instead of 54 and 35 from the site gw2skills.net .Try the build yourself in game and you can see it

There was a time where conditioneer was extremely strong in both killing and tanking in sPvP, and as toxic as a mesmer in WvW roaming and any kittenbag could get the hang of its gameplay. Some of that hate could linger from there. Also, the P/P-FT-Balthazar build will wreck about anyone who doesn’t intelligently cleanses conditions, or are prone to being baited by Incendiary Powder. And they are many.