Counter to (30/10/0/20/10) triple kit build

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Posted by: Phantom.4079

Phantom.4079

Q:

Hai engie forum! I’ve recently made my engineer my main class for wvw after using it in pvp, and I run condition triple kit (30/10/0/20/10 generally). I was hoping ya’ll could enlighten me as to what profession and or build hard counters this build so that I could be wary of said class as well as practice learning how to outplay them. Any tips on how to fight said counter would be useful as well. Ty all.
– Dr Planck

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Posted by: ellesee.8297

ellesee.8297

condition necros are our #1 hard counter. stay away from them.
any other class/build you can beat if you play well.

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Posted by: NoNameNoob.9758

NoNameNoob.9758

condition necros are our #1 hard counter. stay away from them.
any other class/build you can beat if you play well.

This!

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Posted by: Dredd Spirit Caller.4082

Dredd Spirit Caller.4082

melandru rune set help a bit

Engy:Turrets Nade/HgH Kit Bunker Zerker
Necro:MMMesmer:pve omniRanger:SpiritsThief:P/P

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Posted by: Writetyper.1985

Writetyper.1985

just a necro really. Especially a necro with a lot of condition return.

Mortryde/Cold/Thugmentalist Bara
really bad engineer

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

Condition warrior is also very nice. Because he is also able to aplly a lot of condtions with a very long duration and we can not remove all of them. (sword offhand/bow warrior)

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

You also should be very careful of being chain immobilized with a single stun breaker (assuming you mean a traditional grenade/bomb/e-gun) build.

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Posted by: Pannonica.5378

Pannonica.5378

Yes, you should look into Melandru runes, -stun duration or reduced damage when stunned food and check out Stabilized Armor and/or Protection Injection as an alternative to your build.
Be prepared to get stunlocked/immobilized and downed nonetheless though.

Try to prepare a trait allocation that allows you to swap traits to traits that make sense to you in a non 1vs1 setting against a warrior, without resetting traits (no sense in running all of the stun counters for the (avoidable) occasions you encounter a cheesy meta warrior with half a brain).

Pannonica
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Posted by: Phineas Poe.3018

Phineas Poe.3018

Necromancers.

Conditions will be your primary cause of death. We have a lot of great damage mitigation skills through Gear Shield, Elixir S, Protection Injection, Stabilized Armor, etc. etc., but our condition removal by comparison is fairly lackluster.

You could try to counter this by running Elixir C as your third utility, but necromancers have a utility skill called Corrupt Boons that is sometimes used that basically takes all those conditions you turned into boons and … revert them back to conditions. This is why most engineers make a point to stay away from this skill, and just try to avoid wells in the first place.

I suggest, if you can Elixir S on your bar, to just use that—or any damage mitigation skill really—to proc all their wells safely. Run through them all as the glorious mini-you that you are and you’ve disrupted their condition burst pretty effectively. Realistically speaking though, if you see two necros hanging out on a point, you will just want to walk away slowly.

Or quickly. If they saw you.

[EG] Ethereal Guardians

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