Dear engineers..
because while other professions are busy petting eachother’s kittens the wrong way, us few good engies are busy constructing a doomsday device.
it’s not like I am revealing anything secret, we’re engies, we build things. then we crush you with them.
it will happen, and when it does, all the other professions will be so flabbergasted, perplexed, and confuddled by their sudden misfortune that no one will even remember how few good engies there are.
they will be too busy lamenting days of yore.
And we engies will be bathing in the elixers made from the souls of the reaper’s harvest.
Benn E Violence :: 0/20/30/20/0
You kittens don’t even know what the prefix “meta” means.
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we are underrepresented because we are OP and there is no fun in killing stuff to fast, so that`s why others pick professions that are UP.
we are underrepresented because we are OP and there is no fun in killing stuff to fast, so that`s why others pick professions that are UP.
/sarcasm
If you try going back to topics created a month ago, you’ll realize that people had enough complaining. Anet is too busy to spend time to even give us a single reply. At least we got a “buff” last patch so we can say that we’re not completely forgotten. Let’s just hope they start fixing the patch by patch.
Arena didn’t have good designers, and they didn’t understand anything...
Seafarer’s Rest (EU): Liicher (Engi), Lii Cher (Warrior), Swf (Elem),
Licharr (Guard), Lich Eir (Ranger), Alt Fh (Thief). Lii Cherr (Mesm), S Wf (Necr)
Because those of us that have been around since the beginning and soon after are refining our craft on our ‘UP’ profession. You never expect us to put up a fight in PvP, but we do, my friend. And when/if the profession gets brought up to snuff, the faithful will be rewarded, and all that work we put in will come to fruition. Why aren’t we revolting? Because we are crafting the blueprints for everyone’s demise, bwahahahahahaha
Because A-net don’t listen. In fact they’re so keen to not listen, that most threads full of good information on what people don’t like, get closed just as soon as there’s the faintest sniff of a weak opportunity. e.g. 444 post engineer thread closed just today.
Probably this thread will be closed also.
Anet is too busy to spend time to even give us a single reply. At least we got a “buff” last patch so we can say that we’re not completely forgotten. Let’s just hope they start fixing the patch by patch.
Go read the other profession forums. Rangers are the only profession that has had a dev post/reply since the last time we had one. So please give up on this blow hard, straw man argument that they are for some magic reason, particularly ignoring the engineers while implying they are not ignoring the other professions.
Because A-net don’t listen. In fact they’re so keen to not listen, that most threads full of good information on what people don’t like, get closed just as soon as there’s the faintest sniff of a weak opportunity. e.g. 444 post engineer thread closed just today.
I think it is you who doesn’t listen. The engineer forums clamored for sigils to effect kits. It happened.
The engineer forums clamored for kits to get weapons stats. It happened.
The devs Shout to the heavens that they are listening, by doing exactly what the top two most demanded changes were. Now all of the sudden you turn a deaf ear to that and claim they don’t listen
It is post like this that make it difficult for skilled players to listen to the uninformed or false complaints of the lacking players.
I am all for reasonable argument or debate. But making bull kitten claims and blunt statements that are provably false , doesn’t help at all.
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After 6months A-net finally managed to get sigils and stats fixed. Get as rosy tinted and optimistic as you want, but this should have happened before engineer left alpha, let alone beta.
Back on topic, closing threads full of information and opinion on the weakest of justifications, just because you don’t find those strongly and widely held opinions flattering to your company, is only a definition of ‘Listening’ in La La Land.
Anet is too busy to spend time to even give us a single reply. At least we got a “buff” last patch so we can say that we’re not completely forgotten. Let’s just hope they start fixing the patch by patch.
Go read the other profession forums. Rangers are the only profession that has had a dev post/reply since the last time we had one. So please give up on this blow hard, straw man argument that they are for some magic reason, particularly ignoring the engineers while implying they are not ignoring the other professions.
First of all, I’m all done complaining about Anet and stuff regarding engineer nerfs etc and moved on with it. What I actually meant by they’re too busy to even give a reply is exactly what happened this latest patch.
We’ve both been through what kind of hell and raging happened in the Engineer section after the major nerf to grenades. Most people are upset and the forums was out of control already yet Anet did not even give us a single reply. Come on, we just went under a major nerf so we deserve at least a single reply to show us that they’re listening. Then without any sign or clues, all of a sudden our Kits now scale with our weapons and turrets now scale with conditions. We were buffed out of nowhere.
In short, what I’m trying to say is that they should at least tell us that they’re already doing something about the engineer class so people won’t rage and go QQ in the forums. Now we know they are definitely doing something so they don’t have to keep quiet about it so people won’t assume they’re ignoring us.
We’ve both been through what kind of hell and raging happened in the Engineer section after the major nerf to grenades. Most people are upset and the forums was out of control already yet Anet did not even give us a single reply. Come on, we just went under a major nerf so we deserve at least a single reply to show us that they’re listening. Then without any sign or clues, all of a sudden our Kits now scale with our weapons and turrets now scale with conditions. We were buffed out of nowhere.
Nah, we knew weapon stats would be added to kits, they had mentioned it along time ago on our forums. Sometime on November I think.
And there have been many outcries, the best we got from it was a mod posting he would be passing along player feedback to devs.
We’ve both been through what kind of hell and raging happened in the Engineer section after the major nerf to grenades. Most people are upset and the forums was out of control already yet Anet did not even give us a single reply. Come on, we just went under a major nerf so we deserve at least a single reply to show us that they’re listening. Then without any sign or clues, all of a sudden our Kits now scale with our weapons and turrets now scale with conditions. We were buffed out of nowhere.
Nah, we knew weapon stats would be added to kits, they had mentioned it along time ago on our forums. Sometime on November I think.
And there have been many outcries, the best we got from it was a mod posting he would be passing along player feedback to devs.
Yes they mentioned it, they never actually said when. Then after a major nerf, no form of communication was made and everybody was raging and disappointed and the forums was filled with rants. If they just let us know that they are working on it, I doubt the engineer forums would have been filled with rants like that. But past is past, at least now we’re sure they’re working in the shadows.
After 6months A-net finally managed to get sigils and stats fixed. Get as rosy tinted and optimistic as you want, but this should have happened before engineer left alpha, let alone beta.
Back on topic, closing threads full of information and opinion on the weakest of justifications, just because you don’t find those strongly and widely held opinions flattering to your company, is only a definition of ’Listening’ in La La Land.
The thread is closed, not deleted. You can still read it.
Is this your first mmo (not trying to be a nob, here)? Have you ever played a top ticket mmo title that was perfect at launch?
These things take time to fix.
Personally, as uncommunicative as they may be, I rather like the way anet handles patches because
a) they don’t tweak numbers, they alter source code. This takes longer, but over the epic journey anet is able to continually tune the whole game instead piecemeal alterations.
b) they don’t promise anything so they don’t break promises. This may seem asinine, but you are a member of these forums, could you imagine the clamour if they didn’t deliver on a proposed change/buff/whatever?
I mean, really, all the classes need work, this is inevitable. When you get this many people playing a game, we have a tendency to break things in ways the devs cannot anticipate until the game goes live. it’s not like the old days of consoles where a game is a closed system, ya?
Benn E Violence :: 0/20/30/20/0
You kittens don’t even know what the prefix “meta” means.
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Yes they mentioned it, they never actually said when. Then after a major nerf, no form of communication was made and everybody was raging and disappointed and the forums was filled with rants. If they just let us know that they are working on it, I doubt the engineer forums would have been filled with rants like that. But past is past, at least now we’re sure they’re working in the shadows.
Weird, I just searched Code of Conduct, Terms of Service, User agreement, and Terms of Use, yet I couldn’t find anywhere that stated they were required to tell us when they were making a specific change and how far ahead of time they are required to do so.
Yes they mentioned it, they never actually said when. Then after a major nerf, no form of communication was made and everybody was raging and disappointed and the forums was filled with rants. If they just let us know that they are working on it, I doubt the engineer forums would have been filled with rants like that. But past is past, at least now we’re sure they’re working in the shadows.
Weird, I just searched Code of Conduct, Terms of Service, User agreement, and Terms of Use, yet I couldn’t find anywhere that stated they were required to tell us when they were making a specific change and how far ahead of time they are required to do so.
Why are you trying to start a fight?
Why are you trying to start a fight?
Because when they give us the two biggest fixes we ask for and someone complains and portrays it as if it wasn’t a good fix because they didn’t tell us when they planned to do it, is foolish
As a matter of fact, you should be ashamed of someone complaining about our two best buffs we got, instead of arguing against your own best self interest purely because you dislike me.
A lot of the responses in this thread sounds like we have a religous cult going. We are waiting for the Great Buff to come, when all the Engineers will rise up from the shadows to crush those kittens who looked down upon us! We are simply biding our time, planning their downfall.
With the mightof our Elixirs and the roar of our Turrets we shall conquer! We will walk out of the Desert of Nerf unscathed! And when the time finally arrives shall the glory of the engineer be obvious to everyone.
I am so kitten tired…
Good night
Why the kitten aren’t you starting a revolution? You’re the kittentiest most underrepresented class in game and you all just take it. WHY?!
I lol, inside, and cry, outside all AT ONCE anytime I have to drag one of your sorry kitten through… bleeeeeeeeeh ANYTHING.
Because we have certain leetests running around claiming that there’s absolutely nothing wrong because their niche build is working for them just fine in tPVP or sPVP or WvW and not thinking globally about the rest of the community. That’s what I’m seeing. They know something’s wrong but they don’t want them to do what they are doing to the PVE players, adjust the class to make PVE work which would most likely cause bugs and extra problems for their pvp niche build. I say let them suffer the way we have.
A lot of the responses in this thread sounds like we have a religous cult going. We are waiting for the Great Buff to come, when all the Engineers will rise up from the shadows to crush those kittens who looked down upon us! We are simply biding our time, planning their downfall.
With the mightof our Elixirs and the roar of our Turrets we shall conquer! We will walk out of the Desert of Nerf unscathed! And when the time finally arrives shall the glory of the engineer be obvious to everyone.I am so kitten tired…
Good night
LOL! I loved this reply it was every bit worth it!
Why are you trying to start a fight?
Because when they give us the two biggest fixes we ask for and someone complains and portrays it as if it wasn’t a good fix because they didn’t tell us when they planned to do it, is foolish
As a matter of fact, you should be ashamed of someone complaining about our two best buffs we got, instead of arguing against your own best self interest purely because you dislike me.
He isn’t complaining about the fixes, he’s complaining about Anet not being more vocal about what they’re doing for the engineer. Personally, I wish Anet would be more vocal in general, but they’re leagues better than a few other mmo companies I’ve had the misfortune of dealing with in the past, so I don’t see much reason to complain.
For the record, I’m not trying to start an argument with you, and I’m not arguing against my own self interest. I ask why you’re trying to start something with someone else because this seems like a pointless thing tho argue about.
Why are you trying to start a fight?
Because when they give us the two biggest fixes we ask for and someone complains and portrays it as if it wasn’t a good fix because they didn’t tell us when they planned to do it, is foolish
As a matter of fact, you should be ashamed of someone complaining about our two best buffs we got, instead of arguing against your own best self interest purely because you dislike me.
He isn’t complaining about the fixes, he’s complaining about Anet not being more vocal about what they’re doing for the engineer. Personally, I wish Anet would be more vocal in general, but they’re leagues better than a few other mmo companies I’ve had the misfortune of dealing with in the past, so I don’t see much reason to complain.
They clearly stated they were working on it. Then They fixed it. He is taking a petty perspective. Whether or not they are bring vocal is irrelavent when they are fixing things after they state they are working on it.
For the record, I’m not trying to start an argument with you, and I’m not arguing against my own self interest. I ask why you’re trying to start something with someone else because this seems like a pointless thing tho argue about.
Exactly. Nothing was said to you but you attempt to moderate it and make an inflammatory and accusatory comment. If you dislike my post, feel free to report it. But do not make a backhanded snide remark, then cry fowl if I call you on it.
For the record, I’m not trying to start an argument with you, and I’m not arguing against my own self interest. I ask why you’re trying to start something with someone else because this seems like a pointless thing tho argue about.
Exactly. Nothing was said to you but you attempt to moderate it and make an inflammatory and accusatory comment. If you dislike my post, feel free to report it. But do not make a backhanded snide remark, then cry fowl if I call you on it.
I wouldn’t call asking why you were trying to start a fight moderating your post. Nor have I made any backhanded or snide remarks. I just don’t think you should try to start fights is all. It’s not nice.