Guild Wars 2

I’m currently lvl 67 and have recently begun running dungeons with my guildies. Leveling, I’ve been using a P/P condition build with FT on the forefront, supplemented with EG & Elixir B. I am a monster in open world, never dying & dropping large groups without a problem.

I switched to Elixir U for reflect & quick rezzes, but I’m still not feeling like I’m being as effective as possible in dungeons. My range with FT is sometimes a problem, and if there’s projectile reflect up I can pretty much only drop EG#5 and look for allies to rez. Also, my survivability isn’t optimal.

Any builds/suggestions for dungeons would be helpful. Remember, not lvl 80, so no exotics and can only go 30 deep in 1 tree so far.

Switch to bombs in dungeons.

Is that really it? That’s my only option?

Of course, that will require me to completely rebuild huh? I’ll have to retait into explosives and get new gear, unless +condition gear will still work(?).

Switch to the toolkit if you absolutely have to go melee. For instance, during the Jade Maw level of Fractals. Especially helpful when projectile reflects are up.

Other than that, just keep playing and find what works good for you. I tend to run with a p/s, elixer gun, flamethrower, and rifle turret for the toolkit static discharge. Just my preference though. Probably not the most ‘efficient’ build out there, but I usually do pretty good and don’t get complaints.

Quite often when I run dungeons with the guild, either me or another engineer will be the last man standing in a brutal battle. Obviously, Engies are OP. lol

go tanky, go elixer-infused bombs and go crazy running around dropping bombs all over the place :p

Wait, what’s wrong with your current set-up? Do you want to do more damage? Or do you die quite frequently?

penatbater.4710:

Wait, what’s wrong with your current set-up? Do you want to do more damage? Or do you die quite frequently?

I feel like my damage output is fine by swapping back & forth thru P/P & FT. I have Speedy Kits trait for on-demand swiftness, which is extremely necessary considering how range dependent a lot of my skills are. Pistol (MH) has decent range. Pistol #4 requires me to be close. FT #2 has ok range, while its autoattack has a much shorter range. The aoe blind is only good for escape, since it’s range is abysmal. Because I’m constantly zipping in close, I’m dying way more than I’d like.

So that’s the range ping-pong issue.

On top of that, I feel like I bring no utility to the group. Sure, I deal straight & condition damage and well. Nobody uses my medkit drops but I like it for the speed>run away>drop>heal escapability. Plus #5 is like having a lesser-Elixir B.

90% of the time I use EG only for #5 Super Elixir. That seems like my only utility to the group.

My solution ideas: switch to P/S….that’s all I got. I’d rather not do a complete overhaul because I’m still leveling and I’d like something that doesn’t require complete retraiting and regearing for open world PvE.

ahhh interesting. I have a friend who works a similar play style. He ping-pongs in and out of melee range using a variety of tools like rocket jump and acid bomb. Also don’t underestimate EG. Since you’re a condi build, note that the bleed from EG lasts way longer than the bleed from pistols so if youre stacking bleeds, EG might be the way to go. And EG has a ton of utility. You may not realize it but weakness is an incredibly powerful condi (along with blind) that people overlook. You can use EG2 to kite, and ofc EG3 to remove mass condi on your allies. I didn’t spend as much time on EG as I’d like (coz at that time I was still in love with bombs and the tank engineer) but I’d reckon you use EG4 to go out of range quick. It’s way better than overcharged shot in terms of getting out.

P/S is a great step. Your survivability will greatly increase with a shield. Just remember the shield has 4 skills in two keys so you need to know when to use them. If you want, you can do the annoying knockbacking style that runs bomb kit, flamethrower and p/s. You’ll have 3 knockbacks you can shuffle around with which will greatly help “control” the mobs. But the bad part is your party mates usually won’t like you knocking out their targets (so I kinda left bomb kit behind when I run dungeons).

I think I’m going to try P/S. That’s my first step. Not only will it increase survivability, but it has a blast finisher and, by not having an offhand pistol, I won’t be rushing in for #4 skill. It does deal some great damage and burn though.

Also, I’ll try using EG more. I never thought of using the autoattack, and figured I’d get laughed at to be honest. Against a single target I’ll use it at range over pistol#1 to stack bleeds better.

Anyone else have suggestions? Can BombKit be used in a condition build or is its strength in power builds?

Honestly, I prefer bomb kit as a power build than condi since the only relevant conditions in bomb kit is fire (which stacks duration ~_~) and confusion (which is terrible against mobs). bomb AA also has the highest power ratio for any auto-attack in engineer skills. But you know, if you run at least 20 traits in the explosive line, you can get the bleeds on 15% of the time and burns on 33% of crits to give more oomph to your condi damage.

EG’s AA in terms of power damage really is low. But its bleed is pretty nice and the added debuff is always a plus. (I just think that pistol AA is faster than EG. You should run some tests whether pistol AA or EG AA is best for stacking bleeds :p)