Guild Wars 2

Im not quite sure if there’s already a forum post for this…
but engis need an elite skill rework!!!

Basically there’s only one skill that is useful (supply crate)

The mortar is actually more of a disatvantage if u use it in pvp.. using it has absolutely no point.
Same for the elexir x… why on earth would i use such a skill?!

Compared to other classes (thief: Daggerstorm very strong, thieves guild very strong, basilisk venom very useful, Mesmer: Time warp extremely strong, moa strong… i could go on) it doesn’t seem very fair that the engi only has one real elite.
(and telling me that it depends on the build ur running… nah, it does NOT! the only viable elite is crate.
the 2 others need a complete rework.

Agree. We need more than one viable elite.

Mortar has a few uses in boss fights like against jormag i usualy put it down to kill the goliath and the ice spikes, and maybe WvW when defending a fort, but yeah that is about the only use it has.
Elixer X is just RNG elite steal from warr/ele/necro
and Crate is a good stun, heal, burn and immobilize, so there is only win in that :p

supply crate is a win button, the other elites would have to be very good for me to consider changing.

All engineer Elites suck

Mortar really has no advantage over using your grenade kit

Elixir X is conditional but you will be destroyed by players who know how to hit their side movement keys and kite you

Supply crate: the only actually useful kit and its near useless in group fights as turrets are easier to break than paper However thats not what annoys me from the elite what annoys me is the 240 Seconds cooldown its far too long to make it a dependable elite everyone else has way better elites with 90-120s cooldowns.

I used to think the same thing about Elixir X. I would highly encourage players in WvW to learn how to use it. I haven’t gone back to Supply Crate for almost 2 weeks now.

Right. Elites are bad. Since i roll with a charr i will use charrzooka when i have gathered my 30 points for that.

Maybe i will not use it either because grenades may do more damage…

We definitly need some decent buffs. Moa is a perfect example of a really good elite skill. Hallelujha, it’s about a 10 second stun, making your enemy completely useless!

Instead we got an RNG elixer (I like tornado, but the warrior elite? Don’t get me started..), the mortar is totally useless, it breaks after 3 taken hits, long air time, and just really crappy DPS, the Grenade kit is better then mortar! And we got the supply crate which is nice actually, an AoE stun (3) some nice turrets and bandages.

Just one of the three is kind of good… Anoher argument for a buff for the engineer overall…

Tyaen!, yeah I think I was the only person in WvW that used Elixir X till I showed Tyaen, but the skill is not bad. Yes, it is RNG, but I can make it work in any situation. So far i have face the dragons, zergs, Bosses, PvP players, etc.

Like last night i was with a guildie and camp jacking in wvw, he was in shock because of some of the thing i did, " Engineers never stop surprising me. If i didnt pick a guardian before before launch i would had been a engineer."

What I’m saying is be a better player make stuff work. Because the only way we will get to the top is to make hings happem

Skrill.6170:

Im not quite sure if there’s already a forum post for this…
but engis need an elite skill rework!!!

Basically there’s only one skill that is useful (supply crate)

The mortar is actually more of a disatvantage if u use it in pvp.. using it has absolutely no point.
Same for the elexir x… why on earth would i use such a skill?!

Compared to other classes (thief: Daggerstorm very strong, thieves guild very strong, basilisk venom very useful, Mesmer: Time warp extremely strong, moa strong… i could go on) it doesn’t seem very fair that the engi only has one real elite.
(and telling me that it depends on the build ur running… nah, it does NOT! the only viable elite is crate.
the 2 others need a complete rework.

Spsssh the mortar is a disadvantage in pve too who are you kidding? LOL

What gets me about the Elixir X is when I’m a tornado enemies can still do damage to me. I’m wind hello, their attacks should no longer hit me, it’s weird. We really need a tank to come mowing thru everything especially as a Charr that would be awesomesauce.

Ferum Flamebender.5910:

We definitly need some decent buffs. Moa is a perfect example of a really good elite skill. Hallelujha, it’s about a 10 second stun, making your enemy completely useless!

Instead we got an RNG elixer (I like tornado, but the warrior elite? Don’t get me started..), the mortar is totally useless, it breaks after 3 taken hits, long air time, and just really crappy DPS, the Grenade kit is better then mortar! And we got the supply crate which is nice actually, an AoE stun (3) some nice turrets and bandages.

Just one of the three is kind of good… Anoher argument for a buff for the engineer overall…

Moa is more of a free escape for your opponent. Plus, I’ve seen a couple people put out more damage while Moa’d then they would have otherwise. Pre-nerf, Moa was what you said, but there’s a reason the vast majority of Mesmers run MI or TW now.

As far as engineer elites go, Mortar and X need some love. I’m just worried that Supply Crate might get a stern talking-to in the process.

Elixir X is best used underwater. Wish that Rampage could be traded for Plague when not underwater…

Again, how exactly can elixir be useful? it is an elite (an ELITE!!!) that either transforms u in a tornado (useless) or a juggernaut (uhm, even worse). U can’t use this skill in any situation because u don’t even know which of the two is gonna happen and I sure as hell won’t rely on an elite when i dont know what’s gonna happen if i use it!!
And the mortar… well, why woul i even consider using that when i can use grenades instead?? and if there was a situation u could actually use the mortar it will still be of no use because its destroyed after 3 hits!!

This is how the elites should look like imo:
- Supply crate: fine
- Elixir X: give boons to you and your team and/or condition remove. or a revive for nearby teammates…
- Mortar: lose the skill and add a “Sinper kit” (long distace/big damage like gs on mesmer or so)

Elixir X could be a combination of defensive and offensive boons. Maybe might, fury, regen, protection for 15s. Recast 60s. I would appreciate another defensive elixir.

Mortar could be automatically shooting like the other weapons but with higher damage and the longest range (1500). On the other hand i guess it will most of the time miss.

Azimuth.7091:

Tyaen!, yeah I think I was the only person in WvW that used Elixir X till I showed Tyaen, but the skill is not bad. Yes, it is RNG, but I can make it work in any situation. So far i have face the dragons, zergs, Bosses, PvP players, etc.

Like last night i was with a guildie and camp jacking in wvw, he was in shock because of some of the thing i did, " Engineers never stop surprising me. If i didnt pick a guardian before before launch i would had been a engineer."

What I’m saying is be a better player make stuff work. Because the only way we will get to the top is to make hings happem

if u use elixir x in tpvp u’ll get laughed at… it’s true.
oh i tried, turst me… and i have quite some experience too.
i’m a rank 35 engi and i really dont think that being a bettter player can save those elites…

In WvW Elixir X has some amazing uses.

My original post was in reference to WvW. I haven’t played a single sPvP or tPvP match so I couldn’t comment.

If you haven’t tried/found a use for Elixir X in WvW (especially when enemy zergs are present) then you don’t WvW enough.

Crate is a very strong PvP elite. It’s pretty awful in PvE though, but the other two options are way worse there. If Elixir X became some sort of super-boon potion, rather than a Mr. Hyde-esque ability, I think it’d see a lot more use. As it currently stands, I only use crate when I need: A stun, a heal, or an unreliable root. Imagine if Elixir X was like Rampage as One? And by that I mean it buffed us, not.. the class’ only reliable stability.

Tyaen.5148:

I used to think the same thing about Elixir X. I would highly encourage players in WvW to learn how to use it. I haven’t gone back to Supply Crate for almost 2 weeks now.

ever seen what Confusion does to Elixir X users they ll last less than 6 seconds.

EVERY profession needs more ELITES. Not just engineers. Guardians and Necro elites have it the worst

Orion the Cursed.1206:

EVERY profession needs more ELITES. Not just engineers. Guardians and Necro elites have it the worst

hmm.. let’s see.
Guardian:
- Renewed Focus: can save u in many situations and can be really helpful if used right.
- Tome of courage: mass heal to 100%… nuff said. have u ever tried killing a guardian and his team while he’s using it? good luck with that.
- Tome of wrath: mass quickness, knockdown, burn, might/swiftness.. come on son, what else do u want?
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Necro:
- Plague: ever played a condi burst build? well u should try it… its very strong
- lich form: i’ve heard so much op flaming about this skill… and the damage u deal is great…
- Summon f. golem: yea, not that great.
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have u actually ever played engi?

Skrill.6170:

Orion the Cursed.1206:

EVERY profession needs more ELITES. Not just engineers. Guardians and Necro elites have it the worst

hmm.. let’s see.
Guardian:
- Renewed Focus: can save u in many situations and can be really helpful if used right.
- Tome of courage: mass heal to 100%… nuff said. have u ever tried killing a guardian and his team while he’s using it? good luck with that.
- Tome of wrath: mass quickness, knockdown, burn, might/swiftness.. come on son, what else do u want?
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Necro:
- Plague: ever played a condi burst build? well u should try it… its very strong
- lich form: i’ve heard so much op flaming about this skill… and the damage u deal is great…
- Summon f. golem: yea, not that great.
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have u actually ever played engi?

Played all 3 till i was bored to tears. Only play engi now.
- Renewed Focus: only elite i use(because my current build uses virtues). only one usable under water as well
- Tome of courage: have u ever tried killing a guardian and his team while he’s using it? Yes, its called spike damage! i assume you are talking about group battles since the guardian has allies.
- Tome of wrath: drop in dps even when i was a full burn condition build.

Necro:
- Plague: drop in dps even when i was a full bleed condition build. only one usable under water. kills your minions. reduces survivability when used.
- lich form: dps same as full exotics. kills your minions. reduces survivability when used.
- Summon f. golem: only used for knock downs.
(which do i use for necro? none! i use my racial elite and in pvp i dont even use my elite because i die faster when i use them)

You speak as if from theoretical knowledge not experience. I would take supply drop any day if my other options was any of the above.

My point is EVERYBODY would profit if more elite skills (than 3) were introduced instead of being forced to choose 1 out of 3. You need to get the “only buff the profession i play mentality” habit.

I think plague is actually pretty good. that’s what I use on my necro. perma blinding (+chill with trait) a group is just too good.

All three of the necro elites are good. You just have to understand how they are meant to be used (eg. you don’t use plague form for dps). If you look at necroes in pvp, you’ll see all 3 elites being used in different builds.

I don’t think I’ve ever encountered an engie using mortar in spvp. And I’ve seen elixer X maybe a few times after 2k+ games.

TriskaiX.7014:

Mortar has a few uses in boss fights like against jormag i usualy put it down to kill the goliath and the ice spikes, and maybe WvW when defending a fort, but yeah that is about the only use it has.
Elixer X is just RNG elite steal from warr/ele/necro
and Crate is a good stun, heal, burn and immobilize, so there is only win in that :p

you dont even need elites to succeed in PVE so tell me how effective is the mortar for you on sPVP or WvW . you ll be pretty much a free kill . WvW why would you use Mortar when you get short Cooldown 1500 range grenades , other than dropping it for warriors to defend forts when they got no longbow for AoE .

Crate sadly is near useless if you drop it on several enemies as only one of them will be attacked by turrets. so its basically a 240s stun.

180s. and it’s a 7k heal as well

Skrill.6170:

Im not quite sure if there’s already a forum post for this…
but engis need an elite skill rework!!!

Basically there’s only one skill that is useful (supply crate)

The mortar is actually more of a disatvantage if u use it in pvp.. using it has absolutely no point.
Same for the elexir x… why on earth would i use such a skill?!

Compared to other classes (thief: Daggerstorm very strong, thieves guild very strong, basilisk venom very useful, Mesmer: Time warp extremely strong, moa strong… i could go on) it doesn’t seem very fair that the engi only has one real elite.
(and telling me that it depends on the build ur running… nah, it does NOT! the only viable elite is crate.
the 2 others need a complete rework.

I completely disagree as a human engineer. Elixir X can and has been a huge lifesaver for me on multiple occasions. I have used it as a zerg buster in small quarters with either the Juggernaut and especially the Tornado spamming 1.

Avatar is a great thing to use if you are running through a zerg with 22 seconds of stability?

I also use Hounds of Balthazar on those rare 1v1 and 1v2 fights in wvw. The dogs leaping ability gives you more time to land a barrage at range not to mention will intimidate a 2v1.

Grenth is great if you are running through a zerg with the Toolkit shield out. Great combo if you have haste up

I agree the mortar is lacking. It should be 1800-2000 range, damage increased 200% and able to hit keeps. It should also have an unmanned ability @ 25% reduced damage.

Supply crate. IT can be useful, but I never use it. I know it has a 2 second stun and drops turrets but people just destroy them before anything can happen.

Skrill.6170:

Im not quite sure if there’s already a forum post for this…
but engis need an elite skill rework!!!

Basically there’s only one skill that is useful (supply crate)

The mortar is actually more of a disatvantage if u use it in pvp.. using it has absolutely no point.
Same for the elexir x… why on earth would i use such a skill?!

Compared to other classes (thief: Daggerstorm very strong, thieves guild very strong, basilisk venom very useful, Mesmer: Time warp extremely strong, moa strong… i could go on) it doesn’t seem very fair that the engi only has one real elite.
(and telling me that it depends on the build ur running… nah, it does NOT! the only viable elite is crate.
the 2 others need a complete rework.

This is true for pretty much everyone OP.

Ele elites are just as bad (only fire sword is really any good, tornado is LOL)

Mesmers have it WORSE actually, their entire profession in pvp is being balanced around time warp. That SUCKS for them!

Lebannen.8325:

Skrill.6170:

Im not quite sure if there’s already a forum post for this…
but engis need an elite skill rework!!!

Basically there’s only one skill that is useful (supply crate)

The mortar is actually more of a disatvantage if u use it in pvp.. using it has absolutely no point.
Same for the elexir x… why on earth would i use such a skill?!

Compared to other classes (thief: Daggerstorm very strong, thieves guild very strong, basilisk venom very useful, Mesmer: Time warp extremely strong, moa strong… i could go on) it doesn’t seem very fair that the engi only has one real elite.
(and telling me that it depends on the build ur running… nah, it does NOT! the only viable elite is crate.
the 2 others need a complete rework.

I completely disagree as a human engineer. Elixir X can and has been a huge lifesaver for me on multiple occasions. I have used it as a zerg buster in small quarters with either the Juggernaut and especially the Tornado spamming 1.

Avatar is a great thing to use if you are running through a zerg with 22 seconds of stability?

I also use Hounds of Balthazar on those rare 1v1 and 1v2 fights in wvw. The dogs leaping ability gives you more time to land a barrage at range not to mention will intimidate a 2v1.

Grenth is great if you are running through a zerg with the Toolkit shield out. Great combo if you have haste up

I agree the mortar is lacking. It should be 1800-2000 range, damage increased 200% and able to hit keeps. It should also have an unmanned ability @ 25% reduced damage.

Supply crate. IT can be useful, but I never use it. I know it has a 2 second stun and drops turrets but people just destroy them before anything can happen.

first of all, hounds and grenth and all the others are not to be considered here because this is about the engi elites.

elixir x: let’s say u see a zerg coming and wanna run through it (why on earth would u even try to do that), u’ll pop elixir x hoping for juggernaut but what happens is ull turn into the tornado. ur dead after 2 seconds. my point is: i wanna rely on an elite skill if i use it… (plus, you know, actualy be helpful)

plasmacutter.2709:

Skrill.6170:

Im not quite sure if there’s already a forum post for this…
but engis need an elite skill rework!!!

Basically there’s only one skill that is useful (supply crate)

The mortar is actually more of a disatvantage if u use it in pvp.. using it has absolutely no point.
Same for the elexir x… why on earth would i use such a skill?!

Compared to other classes (thief: Daggerstorm very strong, thieves guild very strong, basilisk venom very useful, Mesmer: Time warp extremely strong, moa strong… i could go on) it doesn’t seem very fair that the engi only has one real elite.
(and telling me that it depends on the build ur running… nah, it does NOT! the only viable elite is crate.
the 2 others need a complete rework.

This is true for pretty much everyone OP.

Ele elites are just as bad (only fire sword is really any good, tornado is LOL)

Mesmers have it WORSE actually, their entire profession in pvp is being balanced around time warp. That SUCKS for them!

Yea ele elites are bad.. (the tornado is btw the same as engi gets, but at least u know that’s what ull get if u use the skill, as for the engi it’s a chance.) but a d/d ele doesnt need an elite… its so ridiculously strong.

Why on earth do u think mesmers have it worse? they have the best elite in the game for heavens sake!!! moa is fine too and the mass invis is quite strong too… come on son.

I’ve made decent use of elixir X. It’s actually the elite I usually run with for PvE and WvW.

I generally don’t like the rampager form, but it has quite a bit of single target CC that can screw people up. Also, you have a few opportunities to knock people off ledges with your stomp and kick, so it can be good if that option is available. The #3 charge ability can also be used as a makeshift ride the lightning, allowing you to suddenly disengage from a fight if you need to. You can also perform actions in it, meaning you can stomp people while capitalizing on the stability it grants.

The tornado can be good for interrupting a group or spreading blinds. It’s actually possible to keep someone continually CCed if the timing works out right, which might force them to waste a stun break. It’s also good at knocking people off ledges, although there doesn’t seem to be a reliable way to control which way it throws them.

It can also be lowered to a 90 second cooldown, so you can use it rather liberally. I’ve occasionally used it as a means of stability, doing the transform and then cancelling out when I’m done with it (the stability will go away when cancelling out). The cancel doesn’t really matter since it has a fairly short cooldown though.

It can also be useful for “on elite” procs, such as runes. For instance, you can use this in conjunction with runes of lyssa to transform, immediately cancel, which essentially means you’ve lost all conditions and gained all boons. Mind you, elixir C might be a bit better option for doing something such as that.

Also, elixir X is excellent underwater. The whirlpool is still quite powerful despite the damage nerf it got early on, and the plague is very useful for it’s AoE blind or other effects.

In sPvP I will use supply drop though because elixir S just isn’t as useful there. It’s kind of sad that elixir X is just a recycle of two other profession elite skills, both of which the players of those classes tend not to favour. I use elixir X underwater in Raid on the Capricorn, but that’s strictly hotjoin stuff.

Mortar is a joke though.

What would you guys think if Elixir X was changed to be a massive boon giver instead of a transformation. Like it could give like 20 seconds of stability + other boons a la ranger’s Rampage as One or something.

Skrill.6170:

Why on earth do u think mesmers have it worse? they have the best elite in the game for heavens sake!!! moa is fine too and the mass invis is quite strong too… come on son.

Because nobody cares about them for their profession, they care about them for their TW.

Supply Crate is a fair Elite. Elixir X… Well, the Rampaging Brute could need some rework, it would also help the Warriors a bit and… the 50/50 is just kitten I used it twice. First time to charge ahead of a fleeing ennemy WvW group to stop them flat with the stomp. The second time was just for the epic proportion as I used it to stop the Guardian morphed into a Leopard lunging to that fleeing Necromancer.

I hate the RNG on our profession and don’t think it is at fair that every profession isn’t hit with this “skill”(<- according to Devs) producing mechanic.

That being said I have almost left Supply Crate behind in WvW, I will usually equip it if I am running around solo or in a small grp because thats where it excels is in smaller fights.

IF you are in a zerg Elixir X can be pretty awesome and fun.
Wanna feel like you contributed to wiping a zerg!?
charge in a hope for the Tornado, then just move and dodge around and watch the enemies get distracted and go flying while your zerg mops them up.
Automatic Elixir S trait works great with Tornado because if you DO get CC and focused the trait will kick in and cancel your tornado so you can get away.

The Brute form is very underrated imo too.
I think ppl expect it be more damage dealing or something but everytime I get Brute I just think “Time for Support!”
Even if you are being focused you can stomp and rez at least 3 ppl during your Brute form. The skills are okay and can be used to harrass ppl but once again they are much better when used as support to interupt stomps or kick ppl off of siege.

For PVE I use Golems.

Is the Stability boon that you gain from the Juggernaut side of Elixir X removable? I swear I’ve been nabbed by immobilize and stun effects while in giant kitty mode.

As an aside, I think that the Juggernaut shouldn’t change your skills but just give you increased power, vitality and Stability for the duration of the elixir instead of switching your skills out with melee.

Rezzet.3614:

Tyaen.5148:

I used to think the same thing about Elixir X. I would highly encourage players in WvW to learn how to use it. I haven’t gone back to Supply Crate for almost 2 weeks now.

ever seen what Confusion does to Elixir X users they ll last less than 6 seconds.

Ever watch your bars much? If you get confusion stacked, just pop out of Tornado form.

I love Elixir X

Tho it’s not as good as Supply drop, which is a really good Elite.

And mortar is really weak.

Elixir X on land = Warrior’s Rampage or Elementalist’s Tornado. Considering you don’t see any of these being used in sPvP that often, it’s not too surprising that they’re really pointless to use in land for engineers. Tornado is weak because it’s really easy to outmaneuver (not to mention getting confused is suicide), while Rampage doesn’t provide enough DPS and you lose all your utility skills, which doesn’t really warrant its use. I wouldn’t recommend using it in WvW due to the unpredictability of getting either or. You’re much better off staying in the back of a zerg and hurling grenades.

Elixir X is most useful in water when opponents can hardly kite as well as in land so plague (necro’s elite) and whirlpool (ele elite) will provide really decent dps. This makes it useful for the ruins in the Raid of the Capricorn.

Love your video, Kardiamond!

Again i say Elixir X is better than you think nice video Kardiamond.6952.

Im in a upper tier in wvw where zerg is a bit heavy popping Elixir X in a zerg is the best

A key thin don’t be glass, if your worried about confusion its because your glass or not understanding when to use the skill.

Azimuth.7091:

Again i say Elixir X is better than you think nice video Kardiamond.6952.

Im in a upper tier in wvw where zerg is a bit heavy popping Elixir X in a zerg is the best

A key thin don’t be glass, if your worried about confusion its because your glass or not understanding when to use the skill.

alright, so let’s just compare it to other elites shall we. first skill that comes to mind is daggerstorm:
high damage, high bleeds, cripple, stability, projectile reflection, massive heal if used with the heal signet. CD: 90 sek.

whereas with elixir x ull get:
stability, cc, power (if brute). CD: 180 sek

→ so not only you do more damage, but your survivability is actually increased and the cool down is exactly half…
that’s why i think elixir x is weak.
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have u ever seen what happens if 4 thieves jump into a zerg and use daggerstorm? yea, the zerg has quite a hard time surviving that.
Imagine 4 ingi jumped into a zerg using elixir x. Yea, the zerg has quite a hard time recovering form laughing at u.

totally agree. Engineer’s elite skills are utter rubbish. It was as if Anet got tired designing the engineer and decided to quickly wrap it up with a whole lot of rubbish elite skills.

Sporadicus.1028:

Is the Stability boon that you gain from the Juggernaut side of Elixir X removable? I swear I’ve been nabbed by immobilize and stun effects while in giant kitty mode.

FYI, stability does not defend against immobilize, so it’s quite possible you were affected by an immobilization ability.

I don’t believe the stability is supposed to be strippable from the transformations (i.e. Rampage, Tornado), but I have had the stability removed from the Rampage form a few times. I’m not sure if it’s simple boon stripping or something else doing it though.

However, I could be wrong and maybe the stability is supposed to be strippable, but I’m pretty sure it isn’t. That’s why it disappears when you leave the transformation, as it’s supposed to be an “in transformation” boon only. Thought I had read something about that in an earlier update…

It is quite bad when I would rather have a 4th utility slot than an elite as an engi. :p

The supply crate isn’t bad, but it’s big cooldown doesn’t make it too handy.

The mortar has very limited use. The number 5 mortar skill is all I really use it for. The AOE knockback is good for res-clumps and knocking people off in the jumping puzzle.

Elixir X is a bit too random for it to be useful. When traited it goes down to 96seconds which is great, but not being able to choose what it transforms me into is terrible. The Tornado is only useful to me when trying to knock people off of cliffs or platforms. The fact that you can be immobilized as a tornado by a net is just…
Juggernaut form is good for getting away. Number 5 when the enemy is around you and then a Number 3 out of there all while having stability.

Dante.3754:

What would you guys think if Elixir X was changed to be a massive boon giver instead of a transformation. Like it could give like 20 seconds of stability + other boons a la ranger’s Rampage as One or something.

That is actually a really good idea and VERY fitting to the entire alchemy/elixir concept.

Engineer isnt the only one with a poor choice in Elites. Its just that a few professions with some (situationally) amazing Elites are making the other 80-90% of the Elites look like garbage.

lchan.2169:

totally agree. Engineer’s elite skills are utter rubbish. It was as if Anet got tired designing the engineer and decided to quickly wrap it up with a whole lot of rubbish elite skills.

That comment can be aplyed to all classes, so the game it is balanced.

Slightly offtopic, but I really liked the way Thief elites were designed, namely Dagger Storm and Basilisk Venom. Thats what an elite should be, more like “ults” in Dota.

I can’t bring myself to love Elixir X. Its good, its cd can be reduced, but its as random as Throw Elixir S. I’d rather had a reliable form of stability on it.

Or, better yet, make it break stun or let us equip any stunbreaker in that slot, that would be SO AWSM!

i use elixir X sometimes, rampage is too much fun!! but if i get tornado i dont even bother, just cancel and let skill go on cool down

Motar, great idea but… if you use #5 as soon as you drop it ( its good vs bosses buffs ) it will break all your other skills and wont be able to use them, also sometimes it locks you for the entire duration without being able to use skills lol and worst thing about mortar is prob that it fixes your camera view.. which makes this still useless in any battle because you have to either stay on it for the entire durantion ( please dont ) or fix your camara view then aim.. nope no thats a no no

Anet should add an elite kit!!!!! rocket kit, bio kit or sum!! ;D