Engeneeir weapon swap during combat

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Posted by: AryasRevenge.3175

AryasRevenge.3175

So im here to make a request, as everyone knows engeneeirs and elementalists cant swap weapon during combat, elemt have their attunments and we have weapon kits but what if as a engeneeir i dont use any of those kits?

I say engeneeir sould have an option, if we have one or more kits in hotbar we cannot have the double weapon set, but if we have none we should be able to have the awesome double weapon set option.

What say you?

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Posted by: Anymras.5729

Anymras.5729

I’ve seen a few suggestions to this effect, but I like the following version best:

1) Give Engineers a Kit slot as a Secondary Weapon slot.
2) Auto-equip this slot with an Engineer Kit using unique examples of all skill types available to the Engineer, or simply leave it empty until such time as the Engineer buys a Kit.
3) Allow only Kits to be equipped into the slot.

As Engineers currently have kittenall for non-Kit weapon choices anyway, but might prefer other skills to Kits (I prefer Turrets, for example), this would allow every Engineer to carry a Kit without sacrificing any of their preferred utility skills. They wouldn’t get a Toolbelt skill on said kit, of course, but it’d still be something.

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Posted by: AryasRevenge.3175

AryasRevenge.3175

I gree with you, elementalists are stuck with attunments but we can chose not to use any kit, so why not have a secondary weapon slot.

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Posted by: tokyoshoe.6308

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I believe swapping attunements on an Elementalist actually COUNTS as “On Weapon Swap”. If I remember right, this was patched in back in October some time.

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Posted by: Twitchz.6407

Twitchz.6407

I seem to remember that elementalists gets both attunements and weapon kits…………

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Posted by: tokyoshoe.6308

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Elementalists don’t have weapon kits in the same sense as ours, they have summoned weapons. They get one copy of the weapon, and a second one is dropped on the ground for someone else to use.

That being said, I’m not sure if that counts into the “swapping weapons” or not. That is a grey spot in my knowledge.

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Posted by: WaystedMined.7831

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Elementalist summoned weapons do count as a weapon swap and will trigger a Sigil of Battle. In addition, while using summoned weapons an Elementalist can continue swapping attunements to proc weapon swap sigils, subject to the sigil’s ICD.

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Posted by: AryasRevenge.3175

AryasRevenge.3175

I believe swapping attunements on an Elementalist actually COUNTS as “On Weapon Swap”. If I remember right, this was patched in back in October some time.

Just like i mentioned up there, elementalist attunments count as weapon exchange, theyre “stuck” with them but a engeneeir can choose not to equip any kit, wich brings my suggestion.

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Posted by: Seetoo.9316

Seetoo.9316

I believe swapping attunements on an Elementalist actually COUNTS as “On Weapon Swap”. If I remember right, this was patched in back in October some time.

Just like i mentioned up there, elementalist attunments count as weapon exchange, theyre “stuck” with them but a engeneeir can choose not to equip any kit, wich brings my suggestion.

And that choice comes at the cost of losing out on “on swap” sigils.

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Posted by: tokyoshoe.6308

tokyoshoe.6308

Yes I think you are looking at this rather backwards: Elementalists -always- have the option of using swap sigils. Engineers can option NOT to take advantage of them.

Either way the situation isn’t going to change from the way it is. ArenaNet has core structure for each class to tightly woven into the game at present, so any attempt to try and change it would require much more work for them than they just do not want to put time into right now.

We are stuck the way we are unfortunately.. Engineers just have to hope we get one or two quality of life “Bug Fixes”.

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Posted by: plasmacutter.2709

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Elementalists don’t have weapon kits in the same sense as ours, they have summoned weapons. They get one copy of the weapon, and a second one is dropped on the ground for someone else to use.

That being said, I’m not sure if that counts into the “swapping weapons” or not. That is a grey spot in my knowledge.

It isn’t. conjured weapons are not counted as weapon swaps.

Further, attunement swaps while using conjured weapons do not swap abilities, only any passives which might be present in that attunement.

I’d rather we have our weapons do worthwhile damage, and our turrets have enough staying power to be non-trivial to kill.

kits are not our F1-F4, we should not be balanced around the REQUIREMENT to equip them.

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

The trade-off Engis get for not having weapon swapping is not kits, it’s the “Toolkit” abilities. We basically get double the utilities.

I do not thing that Engineers should get any form of standard “weapon swap” during combat, from say rifle to pistol/pistol, for example. I do, however, support the idea for both Engis and Eles to allow them to slot two different weapon sets, like any other class, and swap out of them whenever out of combat. It’d be a convenience issue for players that like to change up styles for different situations, without allowing them dozens of options in a single fight.

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Posted by: Goloith.6349

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I think weapons/kits should be able to swapable in combat, but I do think that these should not have a toolbelt skill. If we even have to have a 5 seconds cooldown for just other weapons (not kits) I’m all for it……some of us don’t want any of the toolbelt skills anyways.

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