Guild Wars 2

Does it exist anymore? Just curious.

There’s Static Discharge the famous one and there’s turret burst and there’s Big’ol Bomb burst and there’s 100mines.

And I think that’s about it.

Im playing static discharge right now. I can hardly say that its burst.

Well, you could try the
Bobomber; Video here;
Build here; http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpkr9Zx+KseRCbhMqxgsTJRON6HbEA-TJhFwAAuAAi2fIxDAYaZAA

Or the Turret Burst;
Video Here;
Build here; http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUlIqyVntSfF17ICoH2lfNiiUUZU2HF0FbB-TkAg0CnI4SxljLDXSus1MsA

Both can 100 to 0 unsuspecting foes. 100 mines is very iffy though because the placement of the mines is not always the same, making it hard to blow someone up with a single burst of mines + prybar. But it’s still fun so you can just theory craft that yourself.

Are you sure that Static Discharge does not have burst damage?

There’s also 100mines which definitely has burst damage and can still easily 100-0 people.

The problem is that SD and 100mines are very much 1v1 builds and they have very little teamfight presence; and their utility is eclipsed by Kit builds which require less traiting to be effective and in general have less opportunity cost. Other than that, Engi burst is still very much alive, just as Bearbow double melee Ranger is alive, or Killshot Warrior or 1-hand strength Med Gurd or Zerker Fresh Air Ele with double/triple Arcane is alive.

MonMalthias.4763:

Are you sure that Static Discharge does not have burst damage?

There’s also 100mines which definitely has burst damage and can still easily 100-0 people.

The problem is that SD and 100mines are very much 1v1 builds and they have very little teamfight presence; and their utility is eclipsed by Kit builds which require less traiting to be effective and in general have less opportunity cost. Other than that, Engi burst is still very much alive, just as Bearbow double melee Ranger is alive, or Killshot Warrior or 1-hand strength Med Gurd or Zerker Fresh Air Ele with double/triple Arcane is alive.

i personally usually only run Zerker sd engi in solo que, and that means 100% damage nothing slotted for surviveability and i can 1 shot just about anything with it, the f2f3f4 normally is enough to kill any other zerker and for tanks it goes pull→prybar→overcharged shot→utlity goggles→f2f3f4→jumpshot and a blunderbuss at the end if they are super tanked and that usually kills anything that isnt fast enough to react (which is rare), sure it uses alot of cds but who can argue with taking down a teams bunker instantly like that and i haven’t lost any hp and can continue on my way.

needless to say, i see alot of big red numbers and it makes me happy.

ukuni.8745:

MonMalthias.4763:

Are you sure that Static Discharge does not have burst damage?

There’s also 100mines which definitely has burst damage and can still easily 100-0 people.

The problem is that SD and 100mines are very much 1v1 builds and they have very little teamfight presence; and their utility is eclipsed by Kit builds which require less traiting to be effective and in general have less opportunity cost. Other than that, Engi burst is still very much alive, just as Bearbow double melee Ranger is alive, or Killshot Warrior or 1-hand strength Med Gurd or Zerker Fresh Air Ele with double/triple Arcane is alive.

i personally usually only run Zerker sd engi in solo que, and that means 100% damage nothing slotted for surviveability and i can 1 shot just about anything with it, the f2f3f4 normally is enough to kill any other zerker and for tanks it goes pull->prybar->overcharged shot->utlity goggles->f2f3f4->jumpshot and a blunderbuss at the end if they are super tanked and that usually kills anything that isnt fast enough to react (which is rare), sure it uses alot of cds but who can argue with taking down a teams bunker instantly like that and i haven’t lost any hp and can continue on my way.

needless to say, i see alot of big red numbers and it makes me happy.

This is pretty much what I do, only I’m not yet man enough to use zerker. There is still a lot of “utility” in removing a thief or mes or taking a huge chunk out of the bunker in the the first few seconds of fight.

There was a video I saw recently where an Engineer using Healing Turret, Rifle Turret, Throw Mine, and Utility Goggles was bursting people down; they had a Static Discharge build, of course, and enough Precision to get a ton of crits.

Anymras.5729:

There was a video I saw recently where an Engineer using Healing Turret, Rifle Turret, Throw Mine, and Utility Goggles was bursting people down; they had a Static Discharge build, of course, and enough Precision to get a ton of crits.

yea that throw mine is absolutely brutal for burst, had a friend who used that in wvw and he could 1 shot literally anything at no matter what it was, i dont like throw mine myself since full zerker and melee on engineer dosent end well, but that 1 shot though

MonMalthias.4763

Are you sure that Static Discharge does not have burst damage?

There’s also 100mines which definitely has burst damage and can still easily 100-0 people.

The problem is that SD and 100mines are very much 1v1 builds and they have very little teamfight presence; and their utility is eclipsed by Kit builds which require less traiting to be effective and in general have less opportunity cost. Other than that, Engi burst is still very much alive, just as Bearbow double melee Ranger is alive, or Killshot Warrior or 1-hand strength Med Gurd or Zerker Fresh Air Ele with double/triple Arcane is alive.

People like this make me want to stream even though my computer can’t handle it. This is a terrible build for static discharge and I have never seen anyone play it to its fullest potential. So many videos are put out where engineers drop elite1v1, get the jump from stealth 1v1 and pair it with hardcore dubstep/deathmetal music as if they were doing something difficult. Please learn how to create good builds, manage cds and utilize combo fields.

bethekey.8314:

MonMalthias.4763

Are you sure that Static Discharge does not have burst damage?

There’s also 100mines which definitely has burst damage and can still easily 100-0 people.

The problem is that SD and 100mines are very much 1v1 builds and they have very little teamfight presence; and their utility is eclipsed by Kit builds which require less traiting to be effective and in general have less opportunity cost. Other than that, Engi burst is still very much alive, just as Bearbow double melee Ranger is alive, or Killshot Warrior or 1-hand strength Med Gurd or Zerker Fresh Air Ele with double/triple Arcane is alive.

People like this make me want to stream even though my computer can’t handle it. This is a terrible build for static discharge and I have never seen anyone play it to its fullest potential. So many videos are put out where engineers drop elite1v1, get the jump from stealth 1v1 and pair it with hardcore dubstep/deathmetal music as if they were doing something difficult. Please learn how to create good builds, manage cds and utilize combo fields.

It seems your main point is that you are superior in your ability to create good Engineer builds.

Don’t you think it’s kind of silly to make that point when ‘good builds’ and full power Engineer are contradictory? All strictly power builds are alternatives to the better, more viable ones.

I actually just watched a Static Discharge WvW video where the engi popped her ult every fight. At first I was ready to dismiss it as just spamming ult for a win, but then I realized that every fight was 1v2 or 1v3.

Honestly I think it’s less about the build, and more what the player does with the build.

Chaith.8256

It seems your main point is that you are superior in your ability to create good Engineer builds.

My ability, yes. I am not saying the builds I use are superior in general. For this static discharge build, however, it is. There is always some degree of personal preference and play style that makes some builds work better for certain people.

Don’t you think it’s kind of silly to make that point when ‘good builds’ and full power Engineer are contradictory? All strictly power builds are alternatives to the better, more viable ones.

Unless you denote what is “good” purely by performance in the current meta, how could you say those two are contradictory? If that is your way of thinking, then are you really going to tell me all incarnations of power engineer, team comps and strategies have been so thoroughly tested by the abundant amount of dedicated teams so as to completely write power engineer off? All it takes is one good team or player to shake the notion that something is bad.

I think we both know I am capable of taking what others think is sub-par and making it work at a high level. However, in its current state, I do agree that static discharge falls short of viable if you plan on playing it against the best players. It remains a perfectly good and fun build otherwise.

Ignorance is a bliss.
Run settlers, soak up/mitigate other classes’ spikes, condi-spam, win.
OR
run rabbid, spam blind / dodge other classes spikes, condi-spam, win.

Bombs, nades, EG, TK, FT. randomly pic 3, run balthazar + IP.
Use the rest of your unspend traitpoints where-ever its fun for you.
Type in /dance while they go straight into downstate
Ty that’s all.

I don’t always run an engineer, but when I do, I use a tool kit/rifle burst.

Magnet > Pry Bar > Net Shot > Blunderbuss > Jump Shot > Overcharged Shot

Static Discharge for even more burst when needed. Fire and Ar sigils too.