Guild Wars 2

Forum people,

I play various engineers and am starting to get interested in higher level pvp. I have started to notice how weak the engineer is in a tpvp environment. Before i say anymore i would like to clarify i play celestial rifle, 3 kit, and tool kit nade specs. NOT turrets, which i understand is not a good option for high level play. Engineer has poor condition removal, tiny amounts of stun breaks or stability. So am i playing the wrong types of builds? or should i just learn a different class. after 1500 games as an engineer i’ve grown fond of it and am open to anything. i like my engineers.

My question is this, should i move to a different class? which one?
or possibly a different build… or different playstyle even?

I’ve seen a lot of engies run two kits and Elixir S in tourney’s actually. I highly doubt Engineers aren’t viable in high level pvp, condi specs are pretty OP and Engineers excel at it more than most, I mean you can literally take 1 trait to deal like what, 6k+ burning damage on crit with almost 0 effort, on a low C/D? How could that not be viable on top of all the other condis you’re spewing out?

Engineer is viable in every game mode but not ideal in any! You are a maverick, a wildcard!

Engineer has a learning curve indeed, but I can personaly promise you that Engineer is very effective in all sPvP environments.

Perhaps a link/summary of your negative experiences with your build might shed some light on the specifics of your PvP woes.

Its is viable at higher levels of play it might not be optimal. I also use these build when I play tpvp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxnsNysvq9w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jc8WeRStOc

Team just has to work around the engi if it runs one. Engi are not as good as other prof in mid fights. They are bit easier to pin down and application of there skills(bombs nades ) can be bit harder than profs. Though the do great on sides points.

It works fine. The only downside is you are quite susceptible to focus fire and conditions so you need good positioning and team support.

here ya go….what engi can do at high lvl it just takes higher amount of skill than most other classes

Churchmouse.4639:

here ya go….what engi can do at high lvl it just takes higher amount of skill than most other classes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQd53qlCvo8

Lol you kidding right? How is WvW high level pvp? He’s using perplexity runes back when you could get 15 stacks without even trying.

I suggest tweeking your build. I use Celestial Rifle as well, but with HGH Elixirs instead. Though you give up kits you gain tons of condi-removal, which you said you had very little of. With Strength or Pirate runes your Might will give your #3-#5 skills massive burst.

Some tricks I could pass on:
-Toolkit Elixir B will give you stability, letting you counter enemy CC AND letting you #4 without pushing yourself back.
-A faster Elixir S means any time you down an enemy you can dunk them for free much more often.
-Your Might and Condi-removal is all AoE, meaning you can be a great team player by buffing your allies at the same time as yourself.
-With this build you are fit for any role. You can roam, 1v1, bunker, counter an enemy bunker with pushes, team-fight great, or any combination of these at the same time.

Engineer is my class of choice, and this is my favorite build. Giving up kits is certainly worth it.

Engie has weaknesses that high end pvp meta players of almost every other class know how to use. They have no stability while most of our skills we need to move from mid to close ranged to ppl, without stability we continuosly have to risk getting stunlocked etc.
This means a lot of our skills are dumb to pick like dual pistol because getting close is danger that you cant affort. Also our condi cleanse is a joke, healing turret is a must have and vs a plague signet necro or condi war we stand little chance.

So i guess to be some sort of effective in pvp you must use particular skills (wich is true for most classes though). But if you ask me high end pvp, you are better off playing a better class to win such “duals”.

You can pick loads of protection while CCed if you got problems with that,so you actually be happy if they try to burst you during stun/knock and eat only half dmg,which you can heal easily back.As for necros,with healing gear you are nearly imposible to be killed,or you can pick rifle and CC em.They cant turn around during root,so you can keep them quite harmless for most of the time with root and knock.

As for cleansing,depends on your preference,but there is lot of cleansing options.I personaly never needed our cleansing potion,but its there,just take it.Cleansing sigil,rune of water,cleansing trait,e gun and heal turret.

Warriors with bow can be pain,as they can cover whole point with fire field,but i personaly leave the point for those few seconds,than run in back and cc away the warrior.Think its better than trying to sit in fire field,die,and loose point in the end for more than those few seconds if u would simply leave it for its duration.

In the end,engie is beast and well armed for PvP.You can pick everything u want,to be effective.Decap/dps/bunker/mix of everything,team guy with loads of aoe dps and heals,or just “you shall not pass” type for solo guarding the point.

Thou i never got to the best tPvP matchups,so might be different in the top PvP.Just cant imagine it can be so much different,so i cant agree.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

With the reintroduction of the Elementalist into the meta, Vee Wee thinks that condi Engineers took a hit! The amount of self and team condi clear that Elementalists have is insane! And it’s a steady stream of condi cleanse that perfectly counters the steady stream of conditions that condition Engineers are known for! Vee Wee thinks that a power based celestial rifle build is the way to go for Engineer! Vee Wee also thinks that this type of build is strong in the meta!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

The golden age of pistol/pistol is over. I love the style but elementalist is very hard to kill with pistol/pistol and necro is a well known problem.
Rifle celestial is the new way :/

ArrDee.2573:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

With the reintroduction of the Elementalist into the meta, Vee Wee thinks that condi Engineers took a hit! The amount of self and team condi clear that Elementalists have is insane! And it’s a steady stream of condi cleanse that perfectly counters the steady stream of conditions that condition Engineers are known for! Vee Wee thinks that a power based celestial rifle build is the way to go for Engineer! Vee Wee also thinks that this type of build is strong in the meta!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Yeah celestial rifle is the way! Face sizer and get oneshotted by him! L2p intead bul kitten-tting

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

If you knew anything about builds my thilly frand Dsquaredcri, you’d know that Sizer’s build prioritizes survivability over damage! His build can’t one shot anything! But by all means my frand keep posting! Vee Wee loves input from everyone regardless of knowledge!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

If you knew anything about builds my thilly frand Dsquaredcri, you’d know that Sizer’s build prioritizes survivability over damage! His build can’t one shot anything! But by all means my frand keep posting! Vee Wee loves input from everyone regardless of knowledge!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

While you have 5k hp you cannot ran away from him, he would kill you easy because your build have nothing for run away. He would dmg you for 5k in 2 hits! Cmon use your brain!

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Good thing celestial Engineers have over 20k health! Whew! Good golly Vee Wee was a little worried! Vee Wee had to go into a build calculator to make sure Vee Wee’s build had over 5000 health! Gosh it wouldn’t be esports if it only had that much health!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Check out my stream yo. I’ve played only GW2 tourneys and mained an engi since release.

I would say condi engis are pretty kitten strong and at the very least viable.

Also, I run this build in tourneys:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalUUpkrlYx+KseRCbBNqxAqNIyNWlPfgAkUA-TJRHwAV2fIwJAIZZAAPAAA