Guild Wars 2

Engineer sucks, they dont do so much dmg as all the other classes. Thats all Fix It please and dont come and say i am a noob since im not, got full exotic and ascended

Ok troll ill bite. First off if your complaint is legit, please come back with a little more info about your situation like what your build is. Wvw? Pve? Spvp? I don’t do very much pve but I do quite a bit of hotjoin spvp and a lot of solo roam wvw and the engi is not broken by any means at all. Learning curve is steep so if you think u can level one up and rofl stomp 100blades everyone your wrong. Take time to learn the class and learn the other classes so u can counter them. Otherwise u just look like a moron not backing your claim/request with any additional info. Engineer does not suck and as much as u don’t want to hear it u need to learn to play. Sorry bud.

Sounds like a troll.. but…

As has been said many times, the engineer really has nothing it can do that can’t be done better with another class. Sad but true.

But I only play an engineer and will not give him up. I just find it disheartening the nerfs we get because we are so ‘versatile’ while other classes get buffs.

If you analyze everything in a vacuum then I could see it be argued that we having that can’t be done better then another class. There are many strengths and weaknesses in a build however, you have to analyze entire builds to other entire builds. I can’t even see this argument though, because I frankly consider us the best at applying conditions in the game. We have the strongest on-crit feature as well in Incendiary Powder. The 100 Nades variant also has a few features that give it advantages over other burst builds, even if the majority of other features overshadow it. Not to mention we are better at using on-swap Sigils better then even Eles, since it’s entirely released from the cooldown. We have a lot of unique and awesome stuff.

That’s not to take away from all the fixes that an Engineer needs. There are maybe 2 sPvP competitively viable builds out there for the Engi, and there needs to be more. Like I’ve said in other threads though, other classes have this same issue. It’s something ANet has said they wanted addressed, but specifically it’s not an Engi only thing. We aren’t alone here.

In WvW we do plenty fine due to food options, and in Dungeon PvE we may not output maximum damage but we aren’t far off from that either. We rock in Solo PvE extremely hard and can level up in tons of viable leveling builds. We have a lot of gunk you need to avoid, but there is still a lot of good stuff. Most of all we are the most fun class in the game.

Christianpro.3254:

Engineer sucks, they dont do so much dmg as all the other classes. Thats all Fix It please and dont come and say i am a noob since im not, got full exotic and ascended

Even with the top gear, some player still are at “new player” level. Gear has nothing to do with your personal skills.

Your previous post have been in player help about map completion 11 days ago. I doubt you have as much experience as you think.

I do as much damage as other class with my engi, I have no idea what you are talking about.

What we lack is a lot more complex then :“We don’t do enought damage”.

well engineer pretty much sucks on every field for me except being a dungeon nurse .

Btw, since you think that having a certain gear doesn’t make you noob, you might be a noob. Because as all PvPers know, gear doesn’t mean you are skilled.

This is a game. Games are ment to be fun. Nothing is more fun for me then bashing someone in the face with a prybar. Although the Nut kick in star wars is close.

Christianpro.3254:

Engineer sucks, they dont do so much dmg as all the other classes. Thats all Fix It please and dont come and say i am a noob since im not, got full exotic and ascended

Yes we’re aware. You don’t have to remind us, now go away.

Christianpro.3254:

Engineer sucks, they dont do so much dmg as all the other classes. Thats all Fix It please and dont come and say i am a noob since im not, got full exotic and ascended

I never understood this sort of argument.

“Class X is horrible , and I should know I’ve played it hundreds of hours.”

If someone plays a horrible class for hours and hours, I seriously question their sensibilities.

I just want to add…… its extremely easy to get full exotic, and then ascended trinkets. LOL.

So, obvious troll.

1v1 me with any class. Mr Flintlock is my ign.

Don’t know what to say to that. I won’t mind the ‘fix’ but the class does very well. Tell me, did you expect to faceroll like some Warrior or something?

Rezzet.3614:

well engineer pretty much sucks on every field for me except being a dungeon nurse .

It actually sucks there too. Most of our abilities don’t even get affected by the +healing on gear, I know I tried it, I pretty much keep the crit exotics on now exclusively. does the same amount of healing meh….

tigirius.9014:

Rezzet.3614:

well engineer pretty much sucks on every field for me except being a dungeon nurse .

It actually sucks there too. Most of our abilities don’t even get affected by the +healing on gear, I know I tried it, I pretty much keep the crit exotics on now exclusively. does the same amount of healing meh….

Healing turret now benefits from the healing stat, which is pretty significant. I would agree that there isn’t a huge benefit for super elixir or elixir infused bombs, our two main party healing abilities. They’re decent heals with or without healing power.

NevirSayDie.6235:

tigirius.9014:

Rezzet.3614:

well engineer pretty much sucks on every field for me except being a dungeon nurse .

It actually sucks there too. Most of our abilities don’t even get affected by the +healing on gear, I know I tried it, I pretty much keep the crit exotics on now exclusively. does the same amount of healing meh….

Healing turret now benefits from the healing stat, which is pretty significant. I would agree that there isn’t a huge benefit for super elixir or elixir infused bombs, our two main party healing abilities. They’re decent heals with or without healing power.

well if u use the trait were a kit creates a spell use #5 on it pop regen and on top of that u have bomb heal i dude that is a kitten load of regen if u ask me

Reuxvnoir.7431:

NevirSayDie.6235:

tigirius.9014:

Rezzet.3614:

well engineer pretty much sucks on every field for me except being a dungeon nurse .

It actually sucks there too. Most of our abilities don’t even get affected by the +healing on gear, I know I tried it, I pretty much keep the crit exotics on now exclusively. does the same amount of healing meh….

Healing turret now benefits from the healing stat, which is pretty significant. I would agree that there isn’t a huge benefit for super elixir or elixir infused bombs, our two main party healing abilities. They’re decent heals with or without healing power.

well if u use the trait were a kit creates a spell use #5 on it pop regen and on top of that u have bomb heal i dude that is a kitten load of regen if u ask me

Right, they’re both good heals, but they don’t get a ton better from healing power. That’s fine with me, I think it’s cool that we have decent regen even with zero healing power gear.

Reuxvnoir.7431:

NevirSayDie.6235:

tigirius.9014:

Rezzet.3614:

well engineer pretty much sucks on every field for me except being a dungeon nurse .

It actually sucks there too. Most of our abilities don’t even get affected by the +healing on gear, I know I tried it, I pretty much keep the crit exotics on now exclusively. does the same amount of healing meh….

Healing turret now benefits from the healing stat, which is pretty significant. I would agree that there isn’t a huge benefit for super elixir or elixir infused bombs, our two main party healing abilities. They’re decent heals with or without healing power.

well if u use the trait were a kit creates a spell use #5 on it pop regen and on top of that u have bomb heal i dude that is a kitten load of regen if u ask me

The problem with SE is that this game focuses on burst and damage mitigation. Burst damage, burst healing, aegis, protection, stability. If you get locked down in a dungeon, no amount of regen or kit refinement SE is going to save you. You end up taking more damage just by not dodging and avoiding aoes than you regen with super elixir.

I still use healing bombs because they’re continual healing, and I can run as I drop them and still get my heals, but I dropped kit refinement for dungeon support while back. It does more harm than good to stay still in one spot in a dungeon, and it’s only use is to babysit bad people.

If you like stacking healing power, then med kit is still your best bet. I’ve tried post patch healing turret and it has a lot going for it; continual regen and an aoe heal on detonation, but it still doesn’t scale as well or match the burst heals provided by med-kit. If you wan’t on demand regen, then you can run with 6 runes of dwayna and giving it to the party whenever you go into your kit.

All of this being said, I can understand how people who invest 0 into healing power like SE. When all of your heals don’t add up to much, you wan’t to take as many as you can.

personally i chose healing power over Vit.

Cons: it will be hellish hard triggering the 25-20% hp effects from runes and traits and can be killed faster than a toughness Vit build.

Pros: can self heal over 18k hp every 20s and can AoE heal other players around for 6-10k hp plus Regen wich makes the extra Vit unnecesary for me.

heck is there a Toughness Vit and healing power gear?

Mad Rasputin.7809:

As has been said many times, the engineer really has nothing it can do that can’t be done better with another class. Sad but true.

No, it isn’t true. I can’t think of another class with better crowd control, and I know no other other class can get more versatility/utility out of a single build than Engineers.

I must have said this 100 times we are never going to be better than any specialist we do good sustained dmg tons of conditions awesome cc ok heals great self heal with kit cond removal could be better but i mainly pve with 4 kits in exp dungeons and open events while farming tried other classes and only one that can match our versatility is an ele which i cant seem to get into but seriously i solo champs in ore (melee lol ) and have pulled up to 15+ mobs and survived engi fn rocks!!!!!!!

The regen thing is not cool when it doesn’t stack, there should not be the same type of regen from multiple spells or there should be some kind of direct heal effect from one so they offset one another. Combine this problem with very little if any +healing benefit to any regen or direct heal and the problematic weakness of the turrets where all one has to do is sneeze and they blow up and you have a poor system. It’s not wrong of players to ask for a better system of healing just like it’s not wrong to ask for a better turret system. If I were inventing these things I would have made them mobile like the turrets from the classes on TL 1 and 2 from both the classes that had them, like the Vanguisher from 1 and the engineer bots from 2. That would have been worth it to me. And before someone starts in about how powerful that would make them keep in mind it’s no different then the elementals or the spirits on two other classes.