they say a self rez from elixir line although I have not been able to figure this out…and I have died plenty so was looking at the traits. I may have missed something.
Also had some one say we could get perma swiftness and was wondering how we do this?
Also was wondering on the trait that has an %8 chance to convert conditions to boons. Is this only calculated when the condition is first put on or for every tick of the condition. Also if it triggers for one does it convert all or just one?
If you use Elixir R tool belt before you go down, it will pulse you back up fast.
Perma swiftness is by traiting the 10 points in Tools and taking Speedy Kits. Everytime you switch to your med kit you’ll pop swiftness (5 second cool down).
IMO it’s a waste as there are better way to get ~perma swiftness without traiting it.
I don’t know what you mean by easier ways to get perma swiftness. Elixirs are too random to keep getting swiftness and I would not give up much more useful runes either. Unless you have a lot of +boon duration, I don’t really see how you can beat speedy kits. Without +boon durations, it is a 5 second boon with 5 second cooldown. I only carry the elixir gun and its great because I can always keep attacking while chasing someone.
You’re an engineer, when do you really need swiftness? Running between points in open field? Switch to Med kit, Elixir B and thrown Elixir B and you’ll almost never be on cool down. use the 10 points somewhere that actually matters. Going into combat, switch back to your normal setup.
Granted I run Elixir H, Elixir b, so I only have to switch back from Med Kit. You nailed the another way, boon duration.
Speedy kits is like crack, it’s an addictive drug. Ween off of it and use a more effective trait.
You’re an engineer, when do you really need swiftness? Running between points in open field? Switch to Med kit, Elixir B and thrown Elixir B and you’ll almost never be on cool down. use the 10 points somewhere that actually matters. Going into combat, switch back to your normal setup.
Granted I run Elixir H, Elixir b, so I only have to switch back from Med Kit. You nailed the another way, boon duration.
Speedy kits is like crack, it’s an addictive drug. Ween off of it and use a more effective trait.
you seem to forget one thing:
your whole theory falls once you do NOT use elixir B (or med kit for that matter).
Elixir builds are the most recent addictive drug to be honest.
So much people start arguing as if there are no other builds anymore…
Funny you do this in a topic that uses my post about elixirs becoming the standard as base for the questions.
I realise you talk about running and than changing traits. But where do you really have the room to do that?
Not in WvW at least, the place swiftnes is the most needed I think. The risk of getting cought with the wrong skills is too high.
For roamers in tpvp it depends: where in the fight is it? Who else is going for their point?
Wiggely, wobbely and other wombaty wabbity creatures…
they say a self rez from elixir line although I have not been able to figure this out…and I have died plenty so was looking at the traits. I may have missed something.
Also had some one say we could get perma swiftness and was wondering how we do this?
Also was wondering on the trait that has an %8 chance to convert conditions to boons. Is this only calculated when the condition is first put on or for every tick of the condition. Also if it triggers for one does it convert all or just one?
The “transmute” trait triggers only when a condition is applied to you. It only converts a single stack of the condition even if it succeeds. For example, if a necro hits you with mark of blood for three stacks of bleeding, transmute gets three 8% chances to turn each of them to a boon (I believe bleeding changes to might). It’s still good for a minor trait.
You’re an engineer, when do you really need swiftness? Running between points in open field? Switch to Med kit, Elixir B and thrown Elixir B and you’ll almost never be on cool down. use the 10 points somewhere that actually matters. Going into combat, switch back to your normal setup.
Granted I run Elixir H, Elixir b, so I only have to switch back from Med Kit. You nailed the another way, boon duration.
Speedy kits is like crack, it’s an addictive drug. Ween off of it and use a more effective trait.
you seem to forget one thing:
your whole theory falls once you do NOT use elixir B (or med kit for that matter).
Elixir builds are the most recent addictive drug to be honest.
So much people start arguing as if there are no other builds anymore…
Funny you do this in a topic that uses my post about elixirs becoming the standard as base for the questions.
Again, you’re an engineer, you can switch kits at will (unless in combat in which case why do you need swiftness?).
I don’t think Elixir builds are the only viable build. I’ve run many different builds. Elixir is what I run most of the time because it fits my play style.
You’re an engineer, when do you really need swiftness? Running between points in open field? Switch to Med kit, Elixir B and thrown Elixir B and you’ll almost never be on cool down. use the 10 points somewhere that actually matters. Going into combat, switch back to your normal setup.
Granted I run Elixir H, Elixir b, so I only have to switch back from Med Kit. You nailed the another way, boon duration.
Speedy kits is like crack, it’s an addictive drug. Ween off of it and use a more effective trait.
you seem to forget one thing:
your whole theory falls once you do NOT use elixir B (or med kit for that matter).
Elixir builds are the most recent addictive drug to be honest.
So much people start arguing as if there are no other builds anymore…
Funny you do this in a topic that uses my post about elixirs becoming the standard as base for the questions.
Again, you’re an engineer, you can switch kits at will (unless in combat in which case why do you need swiftness?).
you don’t think swiftness in combat is important?
i think it’s very much needed for kiting several classes.
Only if I really really stick close to turrets, smacking a tool kit around, I think I might do without swiftness.
Not saying you absolutely need it. But I find it really odd you think we don’t need it in combat at all. How do you kite?
Wiggely, wobbely and other wombaty wabbity creatures…
You’re an engineer, when do you really need swiftness? Running between points in open field? Switch to Med kit, Elixir B and thrown Elixir B and you’ll almost never be on cool down. use the 10 points somewhere that actually matters. Going into combat, switch back to your normal setup.
Granted I run Elixir H, Elixir b, so I only have to switch back from Med Kit. You nailed the another way, boon duration.
Speedy kits is like crack, it’s an addictive drug. Ween off of it and use a more effective trait.
you seem to forget one thing:
your whole theory falls once you do NOT use elixir B (or med kit for that matter).
Elixir builds are the most recent addictive drug to be honest.
So much people start arguing as if there are no other builds anymore…
Funny you do this in a topic that uses my post about elixirs becoming the standard as base for the questions.
Again, you’re an engineer, you can switch kits at will (unless in combat in which case why do you need swiftness?).
you don’t think swiftness in combat is important?
i think it’s very much needed for kiting several classes.
Only if I really really stick close to turrets, smacking a tool kit around, I think I might do without swiftness.
Not saying you absolutely need it. But I find it really odd you think we don’t need it in combat at all. How do you kite?
I don’t kite. (My experience is only applicable to WvW I seldom PvE)
You’re an engineer, when do you really need swiftness? Running between points in open field? Switch to Med kit, Elixir B and thrown Elixir B and you’ll almost never be on cool down. use the 10 points somewhere that actually matters. Going into combat, switch back to your normal setup.
Granted I run Elixir H, Elixir b, so I only have to switch back from Med Kit. You nailed the another way, boon duration.
Speedy kits is like crack, it’s an addictive drug. Ween off of it and use a more effective trait.
you seem to forget one thing:
your whole theory falls once you do NOT use elixir B (or med kit for that matter).
Elixir builds are the most recent addictive drug to be honest.
So much people start arguing as if there are no other builds anymore…
Funny you do this in a topic that uses my post about elixirs becoming the standard as base for the questions.
Again, you’re an engineer, you can switch kits at will (unless in combat in which case why do you need swiftness?).
you don’t think swiftness in combat is important?
i think it’s very much needed for kiting several classes.
Only if I really really stick close to turrets, smacking a tool kit around, I think I might do without swiftness.
Not saying you absolutely need it. But I find it really odd you think we don’t need it in combat at all. How do you kite?
I don’t kite. (My experience is only applicable to WvW I seldom PvE)
ah, am I right in guessing you do WvW in raidgroups than?
WvW roamers kite all the time, but when i join a bigger group I indeed don’t kite.
This said: those groups do like everyone to have swiftness traited for movement. But as you say: that’s mostly movement out of combat, less once the fighting starts.
Wiggely, wobbely and other wombaty wabbity creatures…
Between Potent and Fast Acting Elixirs plus Boon Duration, I can use Elixir B by itself and almost always keep swiftness up in combat. Maybe that’s why I don’t notice it.
When I use a dodge build (perma vigor/perma Swiftness) then I definitely use Speedy Kits.
Bit surprising, but not in a bad way.
Always nice to hear that people do well with a different approach.
What build do you use mostly?
Is it more or less HGH condition?
Pretty much. I trade Mask’s boon duration for condition duration. I rely heavily on confusion, so with good opponents who have a lot of condition removal I can struggle a bit. Most players though don’t carry enough condition removal.
I experiment a lot though, and am always open to trying new things.
