Guild Wars 2

should rifle be treated like like rangers greatsword? i don’t see why it shouldn’t be. rifle on an engineer is more or less a melee weapon isn’kitten

im not entirely sure what you are trying to say here

Maiden England.3491:

im not entirely sure what you are trying to say here

why isn’t blunderbuss at the same cooldown of maul?
(you might not know what i’m saying because the forum gods decided to turn ‘is not it’ abbreviated into isn’kitten.’)

Because it does much more damage?

Well.. just because it’s short range-ish, why did you pick the Ranger’s Greatsword as a template for what you feel the Engi Rifle should be, lol. There’s no logic here, really.

The Rifle is indeed quite difficult compared to most weapons when actually trying to get the damage out. Blunderbus is very choosy on whether it wants to hit or not. It only strikes things directly in front of the player, pretty much.

On the bright side, the range on blunderbuss is finally going up so it might finally feel more like a medium ranged weapon rather than this awkward super-close-range/long range weapon we have now.

Penguin – where did you read that the range is going up? [sorry for offtopic]

Blunderbuss. Updated the ranges on this skill so that it is at 100% effectivness with anyone in melee range. Increased range 200 units when using the trait.

from the dec 10 patch preview. range only increases when traited. nobody traits for increased range so w/e

Never compare different classes – ANet.

ellesee.8297:

Blunderbuss. Updated the ranges on this skill so that it is at 100% effectivness with anyone in melee range. Increased range 200 units when using the trait.

from the dec 10 patch preview. range only increases when traited. nobody traits for increased range so w/e

I’m sure the first sentence is even if untraited, but the +200 is a bonus from traited.

And I use the trait

Chaith.8256:

Well.. just because it’s short range-ish, why did you pick the Ranger’s Greatsword as a template for what you feel the Engi Rifle should be, lol. There’s no logic here, really.

The Rifle is indeed quite difficult compared to most weapons when actually trying to get the damage out. Blunderbus is very choosy on whether it wants to hit or not. It only strikes things directly in front of the player, pretty much.

maul=similar damage, range and cooldown. similar effects (gs 4 on ranger is a weaker net shot) rifle 5 is similar to swoop. and gs 5 is similar to rifle 4. overall they are similar weapons both in performance, but maul has a higher damage ceiling than blunderbuss without going full glass.

maul: Damage: 434 (x1.5)
blunderbuss: 618 (x1.6)

Not regarding the bleeds on blunderbuss … where do u see more damage? :-o

Forestnator.6298:

maul: Damage: 434 (x1.5)
blunderbuss: 618 (x1.6)

Not regarding the bleeds on blunderbuss … where do u see more damage? :-o

Probably because GS rangers usually trait the +50% damage after interrupt.

Forestnator.6298:

maul: Damage: 434 (x1.5)
blunderbuss: 618 (x1.6)

Not regarding the bleeds on blunderbuss … where do u see more damage? :-o

Don’t you feel the 40% lower cool down on maul as well as its 5 stacks of vulnerability are relevant as well? These facts appear to have been ignored for some reason

Forestnator.6298:

maul: Damage: 434 (x1.5)
blunderbuss: 618 (x1.6)

Not regarding the bleeds on blunderbuss … where do u see more damage? :-o

434 / 1.5 = 289.33
618 / 1.6 = 386.25

289.33 =/= 386.25

Since there is no real base damage either the first damage number or the ratio of one skill is wrong. The difference is higher than just 0.1, it’s more about 0.6 more. So if 434 +1.5 is right, aswell the 618, then the 618 scales with 2.1.

What is sure is that there is something definitly wrong with these wiki nubers.

why are we comparing two different skills from two different classes

ellesee.8297:

why are we comparing two different skills from two different classes

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I thought we all learned this maybe a year ago? It doesn’t apply the same way in the slightest.

Where is my 3k/hit pet? What about my 3 conditions every 10 seconds passively?