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Posted by: Anthony.7630

Anthony.7630

So…i am sorry for my stupidity and my lack of skill.

My server went up a rank and now i am useless.

My engineer cant win 1v1s versus anyone. Condition power hammer rifle pistol.

Even in parties i do the least amount of damage and take more damage than other classes.

I realize engineer is garbage in pvp. No matter what gear set i use and how fights start i can never win out of skill.

The only times i win is by numbers or by staying close to others.

Now that my server is higher rank i see roamers and people who destroy me.

I have hot keys and i try to outplay. But engineer is so useless. They are only useful as something for someone to focus on while everybody else does the real damage.

I cant outplay people in 1v1 and i bring nothing useful to groups or zergs. By bulworm gyro doesn’t reduce damage enough and my runes of durability do nothing

I tried scrapper maurader soldiers sentinal armor and i mix them up and i still explode.

My condition 1 shot build doesn’t work 1v1 anymore.

I feel like i got cursed. I was doing fine but now my class as a whole is useless in my favorite area of the game – wvw

I don’t mean to be a drama queen but engineer cant do anything in wvw. I see now why people are upset. Engineer is weak in wvw

I have ascended armor and still explode and dont do any damage. Wow.

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Posted by: schloumou.3982

schloumou.3982

Its hard to provide tips with that info. Best you post links of the builds you use and tell which classes and builds give you the most trouble. Engi is an active, versatile class and takes time to learn. In general ask good players who killed you easily or friends to duel you for a bit and you will get better at avoiding keyskills and know how to counter. That said wvw is at an alltime low in aspects of smallscale ballance and with the new addon shortly it will be a complete clownfiesta.
You can fight in larger organised groups (15-30) if you know your role (ress/reveal/pull) but if you want to focus on fighting in publiczergs you might be better of with another class because you lack the groupsupport outside of a bit superspeed you can give.

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Posted by: Samug.6512

Samug.6512

So…i am sorry for my stupidity and my lack of skill.

My server went up a rank and now i am useless.

My engineer cant win 1v1s versus anyone. Condition power hammer rifle pistol.

Even in parties i do the least amount of damage and take more damage than other classes.

I realize engineer is garbage in pvp. No matter what gear set i use and how fights start i can never win out of skill.

The only times i win is by numbers or by staying close to others.

Now that my server is higher rank i see roamers and people who destroy me.

I have hot keys and i try to outplay. But engineer is so useless. They are only useful as something for someone to focus on while everybody else does the real damage.

I cant outplay people in 1v1 and i bring nothing useful to groups or zergs. By bulworm gyro doesn’t reduce damage enough and my runes of durability do nothing

I tried scrapper maurader soldiers sentinal armor and i mix them up and i still explode.

My condition 1 shot build doesn’t work 1v1 anymore.

I feel like i got cursed. I was doing fine but now my class as a whole is useless in my favorite area of the game – wvw

I don’t mean to be a drama queen but engineer cant do anything in wvw. I see now why people are upset. Engineer is weak in wvw

I have ascended armor and still explode and dont do any damage. Wow.

:(

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Posted by: Kusumura.8642

Kusumura.8642

Dear Anthony,

Based on what you’re saying, it sounds to me like you’re doing the one thing that you really ought not do as Engineer; trying to set up to either be the frontline of a zerg or the beastly-burst DPS of a group. Don’t try and set up to straight-jacket tank, and forget about healing the group – nobody wants you.

In fact, nobody wants Engineer in a group. As an Engineer main since launch and someone that will irrevocably lock themselves to the class until death, it saddens me that the Developers have chosen Engineer to be the laughing stock class each and every patch. Those who say otherwise do not mainplay the class, and do not deal with the classism and racism toward it.

Try finding a raid group that will accept you.

Now, what Engineer excels at is being the jack-of-all. ie, run with Clerics. The Zerker/Assassin meta really has no place for Engineer, ESPECIALLY in PvP. We simply do not have the means to utilise the burst/sustained damage that Zerker/Assassin gives, in PvP.

But, roaming with Cleric’s, it gives you enough defence, healing and damage to – and listen to me on this – enough to Out-survive anybody else. Every single fight you have as an Engineer will take HOURS. But it’s the unique thing that Engineer brings – switching combat styles at the drop of a hat thanks to kits – that lets it do so.

If you are running with anything that is not a triple-kit build, leave now. Give up and go home. You are REQUIRED to take Flamethrower and Elixir Gun. Bomb Kit or Grenade Kit is up to you.

Take Pistol/Shield, Rifle or Hammer. You want the defensive aspects of these weapons. Do not listen to inbred buffoons that try to tell you to take Pistol/Pistol. That is a damage option. What did I tell you about damage?

You can’t kill anybody in a short amount of time. Your TTK is impossibly high. But, played correctly, everybody else’s TTK versus you becomes equally high. You have enough to heal yourself with, as long as you use your defenses appropriately. You have enough damage to whittle someone down – a death of a thousand papercuts (I think papercuts hurt more than Engineer at this point to be honest) is a death all the same.

Once you are real good, you can become a pest to entire groups of 5+. You will never kill a single person in that group, but by Jove – unless they completely focus together, you’re never going to die.

Engineer is exactly like Batman. Cannot kill a single soul, but no other soul can kill them. The goal of Batman (and Engineer) is to outlast someone until they’re too tired and slip-up too much to the point that they can’t recover, or decide to disengage and rethink their life.

Don’t play for score, damage numbers, or anything else.

If you are trying to play outside of the realms of PvP, then don’t think you’ll ever get the chance to progress with raids. All groups will simple kick you upon noticing your gear or Hammertime icon in the group window.

I hope this rant has helped you understand a little more and helps you enjoy your play (Hint: It won’t. Nothing can possibly make this class feel fun to play, unless you’re a sadistic tosser such as myself than enjoys being a thorn in other peoples’ sides and nothing else) with Engineer more!

Sincerely,
Kusumura.

(edited by Kusumura.8642)

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Posted by: Twigifire.8379

Twigifire.8379

Have ya tried defender runes yet?

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Posted by: Kusumura.8642

Kusumura.8642

Have ya tried defender runes yet?

Yeah. This

Or Runes of the Engineer.

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Posted by: coro.3176

coro.3176

Take Pistol/Shield, Rifle or Hammer. You want the defensive aspects of these weapons. Do not listen to inbred buffoons that try to tell you to take Pistol/Pistol. That is a damage option. What did I tell you about damage?

That’s boring. Go P/P. Max burn duration. Blowtorch every 12 seconds to deal up to 30k damage to your target (maybe more if you proc sigils!). Incendiary Powder taking your targets down to half health every 10s. Static Shot is your offense and defense. Sneak Gyro or Rocket Boots if you’re getting focused. Dodge like you’ve got some skill

Live dangerously. There’s no glory in just surviving.

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Posted by: MrCameron.4863

MrCameron.4863

Dear Anthony,

Based on what you’re saying, it sounds to me like you’re doing the one thing that you really ought not do as Engineer; trying to set up to either be the frontline of a zerg or the beastly-burst DPS of a group. Don’t try and set up to straight-jacket tank, and forget about healing the group – nobody wants you.

In fact, nobody wants Engineer in a group. As an Engineer main since launch and someone that will irrevocably lock themselves to the class until death, it saddens me that the Developers have chosen Engineer to be the laughing stock class each and every patch. Those who say otherwise do not mainplay the class, and do not deal with the classism and racism toward it.

Try finding a raid group that will accept you.

Now, what Engineer excels at is being the jack-of-all. ie, run with Clerics. The Zerker/Assassin meta really has no place for Engineer, ESPECIALLY in PvP. We simply do not have the means to utilise the burst/sustained damage that Zerker/Assassin gives, in PvP.

But, roaming with Cleric’s, it gives you enough defence, healing and damage to – and listen to me on this – enough to Out-survive anybody else. Every single fight you have as an Engineer will take HOURS. But it’s the unique thing that Engineer brings – switching combat styles at the drop of a hat thanks to kits – that lets it do so.

If you are running with anything that is not a triple-kit build, leave now. Give up and go home. You are REQUIRED to take Flamethrower and Elixir Gun. Bomb Kit or Grenade Kit is up to you.

Take Pistol/Shield, Rifle or Hammer. You want the defensive aspects of these weapons. Do not listen to inbred buffoons that try to tell you to take Pistol/Pistol. That is a damage option. What did I tell you about damage?

You can’t kill anybody in a short amount of time. Your TTK is impossibly high. But, played correctly, everybody else’s TTK versus you becomes equally high. You have enough to heal yourself with, as long as you use your defenses appropriately. You have enough damage to whittle someone down – a death of a thousand papercuts (I think papercuts hurt more than Engineer at this point to be honest) is a death all the same.

Once you are real good, you can become a pest to entire groups of 5+. You will never kill a single person in that group, but by Jove – unless they completely focus together, you’re never going to die.

Engineer is exactly like Batman. Cannot kill a single soul, but no other soul can kill them. The goal of Batman (and Engineer) is to outlast someone until they’re too tired and slip-up too much to the point that they can’t recover, or decide to disengage and rethink their life.

Don’t play for score, damage numbers, or anything else.

If you are trying to play outside of the realms of PvP, then don’t think you’ll ever get the chance to progress with raids. All groups will simple kick you upon noticing your gear or Hammertime icon in the group window.

I hope this rant has helped you understand a little more and helps you enjoy your play (Hint: It won’t. Nothing can possibly make this class feel fun to play, unless you’re a sadistic tosser such as myself than enjoys being a thorn in other peoples’ sides and nothing else) with Engineer more!

Sincerely,
Kusumura.

I hope this response is a joke. Have fun playing cleric engi. I hope you aren’t recommending this build to pugs in WvW.

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Posted by: Ardid.7203

Ardid.7203

Take Pistol/Shield, Rifle or Hammer. You want the defensive aspects of these weapons. Do not listen to inbred buffoons that try to tell you to take Pistol/Pistol. That is a damage option. What did I tell you about damage?

That’s boring. Go P/P. Max burn duration. Blowtorch every 12 seconds to deal up to 30k damage to your target (maybe more if you proc sigils!). Incendiary Powder taking your targets down to half health every 10s. Static Shot is your offense and defense. Sneak Gyro or Rocket Boots if you’re getting focused. Dodge like you’ve got some skill

Live dangerously. There’s no glory in just surviving.

Glory is overrated. Live however you want, but do it for fun!

“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks

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Posted by: MrForz.1953

MrForz.1953

I hope this response is a joke. Have fun playing cleric engi. I hope you aren’t recommending this build to pugs in WvW.

Probably is. Needs some time off.

Disgruntled Charr Engineer and Thief – Jade Quarry.

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Posted by: Anthony.7630

Anthony.7630

well the only good news i have is i am starting to live and do decent damage once i reroll my ascended gear to sentinel. I have 31k health and 2500 power (with suffron bread and superior sharpening stone)

i bought the sentinel insignias and orcachalcums and i am doing slightly better.

I still suck at frontline charging in zergs because i have low stability, i need a guardian in my party to hump me.

Now for roaming i do fairly decent.

I am still trying to find good wvw builds but sentinel armor is helping despite the abundent of thiefs and necromancers.

I am on crystal desert and we are 4th place now i think ? not sure.

Any ways right now i am using sentinel armor. I also use sentinal hammer and sentinal trinkets.

I use alchemy scrapper and inventions.

I also use force sigil and sigil of intelligence.

Lastly i am not sure what runes to use, but right now i use melandru for the condition reduction.

The reason i am using sentinel is my hammer seems to be scaling at like 20% of power.

So between berserker armor and sentinel armor, i lose like 650 power but i only lose like 300 damage on my hammer skills. Yes i could crit and do critical damage but i trade those for intense tankiness. Also my hammer skills do decent burst even with lack of power.

I get most of my power from superior sharpening stones.

Sorry i am ranting, but this is the only build i find right now that helps me stay alive against the meta. It’s not a good build but it works for me.