Guild Wars 2

Hi everybody
Ive loved the Flamethrower since i started playing engineer
but people thought that the Flamethrower sucks?? stop it!
2,700 armor
2,600 attack
25 stacks of might always
(9 stacks of might just for being in Flamethrower
build goes
My flamethrower build for pvp/wvw
10/30/0/30
Explosives:V
Firearms:I/VII/XII
Alchemy:II/VIorX/and XII
Runes: 2 Forge 2Fire 2 holbrak
(these runes will give you25 might stacks with Juggernaut and hgh)
soldier amulet:power/vitality/toughness
i use rifle with 5% damage sigil
Itll make you love flamethrower
youre welcome
feel free to leave suggestions

A couple of your traits must be typos, you don’t have Juggernaut or HGH listed. Use gw2skills as a builder instead then just link it to us next time.

I think this is the pretty standard might stacking build that people go to when playing the FT. I just don’t like the auto attack on the FT, and I just can’t let go of how cool the original skill #5 was. I like 2-4 a lot, but not enough to play a FT build. I just don’t like using the auto attack, which you must use if you’re staying in the kit long enough to get the might stacks up.

JEFFARR.8163:

2,600 attack

I also hope this is a typo and you mean power, this is very low attack for a power build.

Adamantium he may mean it as kits don’t use weapon power. Not at home can’t test but off memory thats what I believe he means.

Also its nice that you like FT but in pvp (wvw too I assume) retaliation is an instant death sentence for anyone using FT auto attack.
Thats why no one uses it.

5 attacks per second, aoe cone.

Guardian gives aoe retaliation….. 300 ~ damage per tick…

2 people alone is hurting you for 3k a second. Far more than your hurting them for.

Honestly I wish FT didnt hit 5x a second or retal coulnd’t hurt you 5x a second. The aoe on FT could be a viable weapon but as long as retaliation stands it will never happen.

PVE wise though ( I don’t do pve) I am sure it could be atleast somewhat useful.

of course i use hgh and juggernaught!
and thats 2.6 power

Adamantium.3682:

A couple of your traits must be typos, you don’t have Juggernaut or HGH listed. Use gw2skills as a builder instead then just link it to us next time.

I think this is the pretty standard might stacking build that people go to when playing the FT. I just don’t like the auto attack on the FT, and I just can’t let go of how cool the original skill #5 was. I like 2-4 a lot, but not enough to play a FT build. I just don’t like using the auto attack, which you must use if you’re staying in the kit long enough to get the might stacks up.
of course i use jugger naught and that is 2,6 power

2,600 attack

I also hope this is a typo and you mean power, this is very low attack for a power build.

JinDaVikk.7291:

Adamantium he may mean it as kits don’t use weapon power. Not at home can’t test but off memory thats what I believe he means.

He described a power build, using power runes and Soldier’s gear. EDIT: I get what you mean now, sorry. I don’t think they use your weapon damage values (they use a standard level 80 exotic damage value I believe) but they definitely scale based on your stats.

I have no idea what heal/utilities/elite he’s using though, it would be much easier to look at the build if an online builder was used.

Retaliation

15char

JEFFARR.8163:

of course i use hgh and juggernaught!
and thats 2.6 power

Thanks, I assumed as much. What utilities do you use?

FYI You dont need HGH to maintain 25 stacks of might

Daecollo.9578:

Retaliation

15char

Yes, retaliation is a hard counter to the flamethrower, but most people won’t even use it at the right time (in my WvW experience at least). The truth is, most people you’ll play against are simply too clueless to use it properly. The overwhelming majority of opponents are never going to have 100% uptime on the buff. There is no need to post “ZOMG RETALIATION” on every flamethrower thread lol…

FTs strong point definetly comes with high might stacking setups. You can even throw in boon duration runes if you use elixirs and battle.

kazi.6438:

Daecollo.9578:

Retaliation

15char

Yes, retaliation is a hard counter to the flamethrower, but most people won’t even use it at the right time (in my WvW experience at least). The truth is, most people you’ll play against are simply too clueless to use it properly. The overwhelming majority of opponents are never going to have 100% uptime on the buff. There is no need to post “ZOMG RETALIATION” on every flamethrower thread lol…

Retaliation effectiveness is also reduced in pvp/wvw so even with 100% uptime it won’t be that big of a problem.

I dont know what WvW you mean but mine still ticks for 350 off 3.3k attack .

The point is, every autoattack on engineer sucks hard. Not including bombs as we all know. But the old dream of switching on the FT and spinning around with FT#1 is still just bad also with your build and this amazing might stacking (which is preaty usual lol).

FT is a nice utility kit with FT#2 as a great burst skill. But stop autoattack with engineer if you aren’t on bomb kit. Maybe EG#1 ist worth it in some situations on a boss for weakness. Rifle #1 is okay if you have to reorientate. Granade #1 is close to suck since the total nerf of 55% trough october-december nerfs 2012.

Good engi: doesn’t use auto attacks.
Bad engi: uses auto attacks.

Period.

Retaliation is incredibly broken and needs a rework anyway.

Why would Anet nerf % proc abilities/sigils by slapping ICD’s on them but not nerf Retaliation?

Why are rapid attacks punished but also not rewarded? What’s the point?

Knote.2904:

Retaliation is incredibly broken and needs a rework anyway.

Why would Anet nerf % proc abilities/sigils by slapping ICD’s on them but not nerf Retaliation?

Why are rapid attacks punished but also not rewarded? What’s the point?

Retaliation is a counter to rapid fire attacks.

Aegis and other blocks are counters to single attack burst damage.

I hate to break it to you, but it’s HGH that makes that build decent. Not flamethrower.

Daecollo.9578:

Retaliation

15char

Because the Grenade Kit doesn’t suffer from Retaliation at all.

@Phineas Poe don’t even think on switching that signature for a while. More people need to come across that as i did…

That FT/EG you posted is like crack, very well balanced, opening a mouthfull of choices and lately as i’ve been using it, it feels like… i’m carrying the team on my shoulders.

Thank you very much.