Guild Wars 2

Well this sucks, bombs already being left behind by explosives being heavily balanced around 3 nade explosions and now this…

Im sad.

It actually just doesn’t say so in the tooltips. They seem to explode with a 240 radius for me.

Not that it matters. The broken visuals make the entire bomb kit an unusable mess.

You are right, they look quite large… Hmmm… Not sure how i can test it though.

Test dummies in Camp Resolve.
Radius is indeed 240.

Mork vom Ork.2598:

Test dummies in Camp Resolve.
Radius is indeed 240.

What test did you use to come to this assumption and state the claim with such aver?

My data suggest otherwise.

There is a problem with bomb kit. We are locked into a trashy 180 radius, when promises the traited and extended 240 was to be baseline. This can be tested easily with a golem and static shock (AED tool belt) as it has a 180 range. Approach a golem until the range finder indicates you are just in range then use smoke bomb or fire bomb and monitor the field circle. 180 is also stated in the tool tip.

This really has a massively negative effect, limiting bombs value, significantly.

Tested it myself, radius it hits in is 240, but the circle is displayed on 180…

It’s a broken mess, so cu in a year Bombkit…

coglin.1867:

Mork vom Ork.2598:

Test dummies in Camp Resolve.
Radius is indeed 240.

What test did you use to come to this assumption and state the claim with such aver?

My data suggest otherwise.

There is a problem with bomb kit. We are locked into a trashy 180 radius, when promises the traited and extended 240 was to be baseline. This can be tested easily with a golem and static shock (AED tool belt) as it has a 180 range. Approach a golem until the range finder indicates you are just in range then use smoke bomb or fire bomb and monitor the field circle. 180 is also stated in the tool tip.

This really has a massively negative effect, limiting bombs value, significantly.

It seems that the range is different in PvP and PvE. I just repeated the test in the Silverwastes and Bombs do hit outside of their range indicator.
In PvP however they do not and are still at 180 although displaying effects for a radius of 240.

Mork vom Ork.2598:

coglin.1867:

Mork vom Ork.2598:

Test dummies in Camp Resolve.
Radius is indeed 240.

What test did you use to come to this assumption and state the claim with such aver?

My data suggest otherwise.

There is a problem with bomb kit. We are locked into a trashy 180 radius, when promises the traited and extended 240 was to be baseline. This can be tested easily with a golem and static shock (AED tool belt) as it has a 180 range. Approach a golem until the range finder indicates you are just in range then use smoke bomb or fire bomb and monitor the field circle. 180 is also stated in the tool tip.

This really has a massively negative effect, limiting bombs value, significantly.

It seems that the range is different in PvP and PvE. I just repeated the test in the Silverwastes and Bombs do hit outside of their range indicator.
In PvP however they do not and are still at 180 although displaying effects for a radius of 240.

Wellkittenk
One reason less to run bombs…
Oh well, Guess I play robocraft until they polished this buggy mess, and make engi at least playable again.

They backed out on most things they said they were making baseline.

Range increasing traits never made it baseline for any weapon so the rifle, pistol and elixirgun have considerably less range, and now they’re gone.
Coated Bullets for Pistols was suppose to be baseline, it isn’t. They were also going to make Pistol 1 an Explosive so it works with Explosive traits, they didn’t.

A lot of cooldown reducing traits are gone aswell. Altough they never said they’d make any of these baseline, there isn’t even an option for it anymore. They removed the Grenades from the Shortfuse trait. No more cd reduction for pistols, grenades, elixirgun, flamethrower.
Traits like Deadly Mixtures that boosted Elixirgun and Flamethrower damage, are gone. As is the 10% dmg trait for Rifle.

Quite a few traits that improved our weapons directly got pruned, and didn’t make it back into the new traits nor were they made baseline when it was initially said atleast some would.
But thank god atleast the fall-damage trait is still there./sarcasm

Mork vom Ork.2598:

coglin.1867:

Mork vom Ork.2598:

Test dummies in Camp Resolve.
Radius is indeed 240.

What test did you use to come to this assumption and state the claim with such aver?

My data suggest otherwise.

There is a problem with bomb kit. We are locked into a trashy 180 radius, when promises the traited and extended 240 was to be baseline. This can be tested easily with a golem and static shock (AED tool belt) as it has a 180 range. Approach a golem until the range finder indicates you are just in range then use smoke bomb or fire bomb and monitor the field circle. 180 is also stated in the tool tip.

This really has a massively negative effect, limiting bombs value, significantly.

It seems that the range is different in PvP and PvE. I just repeated the test in the Silverwastes and Bombs do hit outside of their range indicator.
In PvP however they do not and are still at 180 although displaying effects for a radius of 240.

My testing suggest you are absolutely wrong. I have used the same technique on non aggressive creatures to test the range, and is absolutely 180 on each and every bomb in PvE,

It looks like its baseline and it looks like it have those 240 but something is bit different there. I have this spot in cm where I hit bandits thru wall before and now 3rd most further one is out of range. Its just little bit smaller like 230 or 220.

Yep, something is amiss. I tried with tequatl. Before i was able to hit all three spots with forceful explosives, now i can’t hit more than two. Range doesn’t seem to be exactly the same as before, maybe it is a bit lower.

Yeah it is 180 in PvE.

Pick any mob and use a know 180 range skill such as AED tool belt skill. Sit at its max range. Take a half step back, and no bombs will hit the mob. The range isn’t a sliver over 180 in any game aspect, be it PvE, Pvp, or WvW.

I did some more tests with different targets and bomb range seems completely broken.
It is possible to hit the test dummies in the Silverwastes with bombs while they are out of range for AED toolbelt or bomb range indicator.

The range to hit creatures seems to be about AED toolbelt range = 180.

There are also cases where objects are in range for AED toolbelt but bombs can’t reach them (e.g. Ogre supplies near Watchcreg in Plains of Ashford).

While not a “bug”, as the tooltip does say 180, this needs to be changed ASAP to 240 range baseline.

Especially for WvW and PvP, 180 range bombs are useless there.

Yep. I couldn’t agree more, that the difference in range absolutely defines the value of the kit.

coglin.1867:

Yep. I couldn’t agree more, that the difference in range absolutely defines the value of the kit.

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