Guild Wars 2

Kk, this kit is just crazy.

- Reduce the effectiveness of the grenade kit by 20% overall.
- Replace the current effects of the “Grenadier” trait with a 20% effectiveness increase, and the extra grenade per throw. Remove the 25% range completely.

Discuss.

What if you devolop where or why you find it OP?

Answer.

Retaliation eats nades and the dmg from them is so minimal even if you are a glass cannon. No blast finisher on kit, condi’s are so minimal with the yawn like speed of nades being easily avoidable. The range is about the only thing the kit has going for it imo(even with the wonky arc when thrown). I put it on my bar to feel speshul seeing the 200dmg a nade does and the very slight chance to see a condition applied only to be removed instantly by a large abundance condi removal in groups. Oh yeah and for all the qq you’ll see about no auto attack which causes your finger to go into a coma.

Infact I counter with lets buff nades!

Eh, Grenades are usually thrown at the feet making them virtually impossible to avoid.

Grenades have a huge range of condi’s especially with Incendiary Powder trait.

Poison Grenades can stack 1 minute of Poison in 3 seconds in AoE on a point.

Grenades are utterly spammable at melee range and have a very low skill level required, you don’t need to target your enemy at all, just run in circles around the point throwing grenades at the middle, easy win.
If you get caught in melee drop slick shoes and enjoy watching your opponent be continually knocked down at least twice, maybe 3 times if he tries to stun break. So 4-6s of knockdown.

Brew Pinch.5731:

Step 1: Play Profession/Build you consider OP.

Step 2: Get owned.

Step 3: Realise you were wrong.

Step 4: Go back to enjoying the game as the Profession/Build you personally enjoy.

Brew Pinch.5731:

Step 1: Play Profession/Build you consider OP.

Step 2: Get owned.

Step 3: Realise you were wrong.

Step 4: Go back to enjoying the game as the Profession/Build you personally enjoy.

Brew Pinch.5731:

Step 1: Play Profession/Build you consider OP.

Step 2: Get owned.

Step 3: Realise you were wrong.

Step 4: Go back to enjoying the game as the Profession/Build you personally enjoy.

I figured I’d quote it 3 times for maximum effectiveness

Srsly, roll an engi and show us how easy it is.

Ryn.6459:

Brew Pinch.5731:

Step 1: Play Profession/Build you consider OP.

Step 2: Get owned.

Step 3: Realise you were wrong.

Step 4: Go back to enjoying the game as the Profession/Build you personally enjoy.

Can this get pinned? Like in every forum.

For real, needed so badly. /thread

The first two~three posts… ouch. English! Do you speak it?!

The Grenade kit is very powerful, specially against stationary targets, and utilized properly (fairly high skill cap) they will destroy you.

Working as intended.

Edit:Spelling

Carighan,

Sorry, I try to.

Ezrael.6859:

Eh, Grenades are usually thrown at the feet making them virtually impossible to avoid.

Grenades have a huge range of condi’s especially with Incendiary Powder trait.

Poison Grenades can stack 1 minute of Poison in 3 seconds in AoE on a point.

Grenades are utterly spammable at melee range and have a very low skill level required, you don’t need to target your enemy at all, just run in circles around the point throwing grenades at the middle, easy win.
If you get caught in melee drop slick shoes and enjoy watching your opponent be continually knocked down at least twice, maybe 3 times if he tries to stun break. So 4-6s of knockdown.

This whole thread is hilarious, but this post takes the cake.

Incendiary powder is single target and can only proc once every 10s. It has nothing to do with grenades, it’s going to proc regardless of what weapon is being used.

Poison grenades have a 25s cd and will get nerfed in the next patch when duration can only stack 5 times. That will make pistol 2 even more worthless than it already is as well as make fumigate do nothing once you have the 5 stacks on them. Basically, it will make all poison abilities worthless once you have a measly 5 stacks on someone. I sure hope they give us something else to make up for so many abilities becoming worthless.

Grenades are low skill level in melee? What other class has to double click ground target spells over and over just to autoattack? It’s much easier to play my thief, mesmer, and even necro in melee.

Ezrael.6859:

Grenades … have a very low skill level required….

Stopped reading right here…

It’s really easy to use grenades badly.

Dasboba.1652:

Poison grenades have a 25s cd and will get nerfed in the next patch when duration can only stack 5 times. That will make pistol 2 even more worthless than it already is as well as make fumigate do nothing once you have the 5 stacks on them. Basically, it will make all poison abilities worthless once you have a measly 5 stacks on someone. I sure hope they give us something else to make up for so many abilities becoming worthless.

I’m hoping they aren’t clueless enough to actually bring that change to live. It would wreck so many condi skills and totally obliterate the tattered shreds of hope left for any chance of condi builds in groups.

Basically, after a year of calling for fixes to condi in group content it would be a MASSIVE kitten you to those players and the last nail in the coffin for conditions outside of sPvP, with a big nerf to that scene as well.

Aside from when you are fighting a melee thief or warrior and you can just throw them at your feet with nearly zero travel time, grenades can be very difficult to use effectively. They have a long travel time and require a lot of prediction/luck to land.

Watch some of Ostrich Eggs recent streams – I don’t think anyone would argue that he is one of the best engis in the game and even he often has difficulty landing the grenades against ranged enemies. The skill/luck factor of the kit balance out the bang for the buck in my opinion.

I dont like grenades with my engi i use bombs over grenades i like it more and with the next patch i even have bigger bombs.

For Keep deffing or attacking grenades are better.