Guild Wars 2

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/It-s-time-to-nerf-Engineers

proudest moment of my life seeing someone comparing us to Eles and asking for our class to be nerfed! LOL

In the past, we been getting nerfed without anyone QQ about us, if people start complaining now, does that mean that now we’ll get deleted? or is it like reverse physiology and now we’ll be getting buffed?

Nah. he said we are “close to eles” right now but that can be fixed. XD
it made me laugh

The bad thing is that our top Engineers confirm that we are overpowered.
:(

Lupanic.6502:

The bad thing is that our top Engineers confirm that we are overpowered.
:(

I just think Ostricheggs want to be known as one of the hall of fame engineers who got the class nerfed, imagine having the badge “i spread the build that made bunker guardians and DD/SD eles cry for their mummies”.

Now that is an accomplishment to boast with!

And in some cases i sense either sarcasm or some serious Stockholm syndrome.

nah he doesn’t seem like that type of person… on the other hand, I could very well be the person to blame for the 100nades nerf … i had couple more of those, idk what happened to them tho

miriforst.1290:

Lupanic.6502:

The bad thing is that our top Engineers confirm that we are overpowered.
:(

I just think Ostricheggs want to be known as one of the hall of fame engineers who got the class nerfed, imagine having the badge “i spread the build that made bunker guardians and DD/SD eles cry for their mummies”.

Now that is an accomplishment to boast with!

And in some cases i sense either sarcasm or some serious Stockholm syndrome.

I guess Ostricheggs will stay in our hall of fame. He writes a lot of good stuff and his soul is an engineers soul. He fights for the engineer like a mum for her child, but if he thinks this build is overpowered…..well maybe it is.

From my point of view I am happy having a build I can play with. Without HGH I was just a free kill.

Simply because most players assume engineers suck so they don’t take the time to learn how to counter the class, and then if they get killed, they think it must be because we’re abusing an exploit or something.

Well we always exploit this or that, most of the builds we have always combine these traits with these gadgets to combine with these abilities, it’s always full of gimmicks, that’s how the class works, that’s what most of engineers actually do enjoy, and that’s what is going to be pointed at when it’s being too strong.

Let’s face it, we’re not supposed to deal absurd amounts of damage because we’re not Asssa.. ehm, Thieves or Warriors.

Lupanic.6502:

The bad thing is that our top Engineers confirm that we are overpowered.
:(

Its not overpowered unless a good engie is using it, your average engie won’t be able to get much out of it.

Maybe its overpowered, but dont tell me that fixing our class means getting more useless turret pimp updates and more nerfing to the cool stuff. Some engies do not like turrests.

google.3709:

nah he doesn’t seem like that type of person… on the other hand, I could very well be the person to blame for the 100nades nerf … i had couple more of those, idk what happened to them tho

and what you did ?
I am missing something in the screenshot …

zugly.9035:

google.3709:

nah he doesn’t seem like that type of person… on the other hand, I could very well be the person to blame for the 100nades nerf … i had couple more of those, idk what happened to them tho

and what you did ?
I am missing something in the screenshot …

Probably one of the first uses of 100nades in PvP.

miriforst.1290:

Lupanic.6502:

The bad thing is that our top Engineers confirm that we are overpowered.
:(

I just think Ostricheggs want to be known as one of the hall of fame engineers who got the class nerfed, imagine having the badge “i spread the build that made bunker guardians and DD/SD eles cry for their mummies”.

Now that is an accomplishment to boast with!

And in some cases i sense either sarcasm or some serious Stockholm syndrome.

I calls it how I sees it and how I sees it is HGH condis is OP in many ways.

But the last thing I want is for engis to get another smoke bomb patch. If they don’t make other things viable and nerf HGH it’ll be tough times for the engi.

I’m sure no Engineer would want to admit it. HGH is only decent because of how well grenades applies conditions. What’s the point of all that might if you can’t apply any conditions.

But if grenades takes another hit with out any alternative, the Engineer can finally be deleted; even a condition guardian will bring more the the table at that point.

google.3709:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/It-s-time-to-nerf-Engineers

proudest moment of my life seeing someone comparing us to Eles and asking for our class to be nerfed! LOL

In the past, we been getting nerfed without anyone QQ about us, if people start complaining now, does that mean that now we’ll get deleted? or is it like reverse physiology and now we’ll be getting buffed?

I wouldn’t let it get you you, clearly, whoever made that thread is an idiot. The worst kind of idiot. A lazy idiot. Many people have to role a thief or ele to figure out how to counter them. Instead of doing the same with the Engineer, they cry nerf.

Grenade Kit nerf is gonna happen sooner or later. It is only a matter of when at this point. Finally put the nail in the dps coffin of the engineer.

If HGH really is OP, then it’s by a very small margin.

Still, given how much they do for our class, if our top Engs are now outplaying everyone else, want better competition and the only way to get that is to wind back the HGH build, then they’ve probably earned it.

I only hope that if ANet do nerf HGH, then they do a much better job than they did with KR, and make sure whatever nerf they deliver doesn’t sink other builds even deeper underground.

NickDollahZ.5348:

Grenade Kit nerf is gonna happen sooner or later. It is only a matter of when at this point. Finally put the nail in the dps coffin of the engineer.

We’ve been expecting this ever since Anet in their infinite knowledge decided nerfing aoes was a priority.

A-net just don’t have enough guys on the balance team to learn 8 classes, engineer is one of the ones they just don’t have time to play / test / understand. We’re not going to get good decisions for this class until they either get more man-power, or migrate away from the classes they do have time for, which would hurt many more players on some other classes than the limited engineer number of players.

@Zenguy.6421

I got a cool nerf for you that completely seems possible; here is it

• Elixir guns’s Elixir skills will now be affected by Elixir traits.
• Acidic Elixirs damage increase by 50%
  “Due to the buff to elixir gun, we felt that some traits would be too strong and needed to be balance in order to work as intended and provide more utility”
• Cleaning Formula 409: added 10s cd
• HGH: recuded might duration to 5s

google.3709:

@Zenguy.6421

I got a cool nerf for you that completely seems possible; here is it

• Elixir guns’s Elixir skills will now be affected by Elixir traits.
• Acidic Elixirs damage increase by 50%
  “Due to the buff to elixir gun, we felt that some traits would be too strong and needed to be balance in order to work as intended and provide more utility”
• Cleaning Formula 409: added 10s cd
• HGH: recuded might duration to 5s

Wow, that is entirely viable. To be honest, I actually really like the sound of it too. Are you working for Anet? ^^

google.3709:

nah he doesn’t seem like that type of person… on the other hand, I could very well be the person to blame for the 100nades nerf … i had couple more of those, idk what happened to them tho

I like how you’re letting them cap the node. Know that you have made me butt clench XD

As far as HGH goes, I don’t see them nerfing the trait, but I see them nerfing might duration/boon duration stacking, particularly through the 2-piece rune sets. That could be embodied as the might duration requiring more runes to get or it not stacking at all with other might duration runes. This would take the edge off of HGH builds, but not neuter them completely.

As far as acidic elixirs is concerned, my guess is that they’ll buff the damage by such a high amount, that the variable they use to store the damage modifiers will actually experience overflow, and thus result in a negative number of great magnitude that would actually cause you to heal your enemies upon throwing an elixir. That would definitely make us versatile though… other classes don’t have the option to heal their enemies. High level reverse psychology tactics, we’ll call it.

google.3709:

@Zenguy.6421

I got a cool nerf for you that completely seems possible; here is it

• Elixir guns’s Elixir skills will now be affected by Elixir traits.
• Acidic Elixirs damage increase by 50%
  “Due to the buff to elixir gun, we felt that some traits would be too strong and needed to be balance in order to work as intended and provide more utility”
• Cleaning Formula 409: added 10s cd
• HGH: recuded might duration to 5s

Personally, I’d love that, as I like the EG, don’t enjoy tossing Elixirs and don’t PvP. Yeah, I’m one of those people still trying to get non-standard Eng builds to work.

However, removing that much of the our condition removal would be too punishing for the class, especially after we lost so much condition removal with the KR nerf. Fighting Engs? Easy, just hit them with conditions.

Can’t wait for us to actually be something to complain about that would be nice. Wish they’d either give us heavy armor or return our abilities damage output to the output we saw on the first month just after launch then maybe we’d be close to what we should be. And they still haven’t returned the damage to what it should be from that initial widespread condi nerf we saw just after launch, was one of the first things they did.

I’ll be hangin back in the shadows watching to see when it’s safe to come back.