HGH conditions is the new apex predator

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Posted by: AsmallChicken.9634

AsmallChicken.9634

And we all know that this means nerfs to this build are incomming.

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Posted by: Goloith.6349

Goloith.6349

Ya I’m pretty worried too, but Tbh every profession got the condition duration buff through the fixing of Giver’s weapons. They just need to bring everything up.

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Achuni (Mesmer) Doreanora (Thief)

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Posted by: Spiuk.8421

Spiuk.8421

Atleast they would give me a reason to delete my main without remorse, if they remove the only viable build we have left I could use the extra character slot.

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Posted by: Goloith.6349

Goloith.6349

My Guardian and Mesmer are pretty strong and if they nerf this I’m going to probably going to delete the character so I don’t come back to it.

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Achuni (Mesmer) Doreanora (Thief)

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Posted by: Ayestes.1273

Ayestes.1273

Considering they were looking at giving it buffs I’m honestly not too terribly concerned, and whatever they do I can deal with anyway.

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Tirydia – Scrapper

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Posted by: hydeaut.1758

hydeaut.1758

My bet is on a nerf for +condition-duration food

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Posted by: Killyox.3950

Killyox.3950

And we all know that this means nerfs to this build are incomming.

This build is months old with might stacking

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Posted by: Killyox.3950

Killyox.3950

My bet is on a nerf for +condition-duration food

Why? There’s absolutely no reason to. There is -duartion food and -duration runes. Both give better gain than whatever their “+” counterparts.

2seconds + 100% = 4seconds
4 seconds -50% = 2seconds

easier to get 50% shorter conditions than +100% conditions too.

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Posted by: Calvin.5380

Calvin.5380

Where can I find this build? I’ve tried to search, but wasn’t successful. Sorry, I’m nearly blind.

Dragonbrand

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Posted by: Linnes.2678

Linnes.2678

Where can I find this build? I’ve tried to search, but wasn’t successful. Sorry, I’m nearly blind.

HGH stands for Human Growth Horomone, it’s a trait in the alchemy tree line. Basically just revolve your condition build around it.

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Posted by: Leadfoot.9071

Leadfoot.9071

Where can I find this build? I’ve tried to search, but wasn’t successful. Sorry, I’m nearly blind.

Here’s one version:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqalspyXHxSdF17ICoC5loHPGlNZfewWpFEC;ToAAzCpoCyEkIIbQugkBNWYKC

The runes and amulet can vary I think. Some people take the trait enhanced performance (might on heal) instead of short fuse (grenade cooldown)

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Posted by: Calvin.5380

Calvin.5380

Where can I find this build? I’ve tried to search, but wasn’t successful. Sorry, I’m nearly blind.

Here’s one version:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqalspyXHxSdF17ICoC5loHPGlNZfewWpFEC;ToAAzCpoCyEkIIbQugkBNWYKC

The runes and amulet can vary I think. Some people take the trait enhanced performance (might on heal) instead of short fuse (grenade cooldown)

Thanks!

Dragonbrand

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Posted by: Ayestes.1273

Ayestes.1273

Sigil of Geomancy vs. Sigil of Battle is also a point of contention that many argue over. There are great arguments for both sides of that discussion I think. Battle is better if you have to swap at a range, and Geomancy is better if you can hit them with the proc. Geomancy requires swaps at close range though, which can obviously be limiting.

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Tirydia – Scrapper

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Posted by: luckywaldo.6089

luckywaldo.6089

And we all know that this means nerfs to this build are incomming.

This build is months old with might stacking

My theory on how devs approach engie balance:

They have data and statistics on how frequently certain traits are equipped, or utilities or weapons or whatever. They see something is extremely popular (relative to the class anyway) like kit refinement. They see extremely unpopular features like turrets.

Generic buffs to the unpopular features, and nerfs to the popular ones, with the idea that ~average use of everything in a class means the class is balanced.

If something gets to be overwhelmingly popular, it is going to be nerfed. This was most recently kit refinement in particular (not just for 100 nades but also PvE in general). I would say HGH looks to be a pretty good candidate as engies adjust their builds post-KR.

At least I can speak for myself, that I have dropped KR since the first time they broke it and moved to HGH.

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Posted by: google.3709

google.3709

Nah HGH won’t be nerfed.. this is what all engineers should be playing.

this has the RGN, mid range figher survival and doesn’t kill too fast, this is what Anet invasions Engineers to be, average ( not saying the is bad, the build is awesome but simply doesnt have anything that “shines” )

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Posted by: Halcyon.7352

Halcyon.7352

Nah HGH won’t be nerfed.. this is what all engineers should be playing.

this has the RGN, mid range figher survival and doesn’t kill too fast, this is what Anet invasions Engineers to be, average ( not saying the is bad, the build is awesome but simply doesnt have anything that “shines” )

I personally couldn’t help but giggle a bit at the title of this thread. Some fearsome predator.

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For the toast!

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Posted by: Zenguy.6421

Zenguy.6421

And we all know that this means nerfs to this build are incomming.

ROFLMAO – searches for something to wipe coffee off screen.

I saw that thread title and thought “Oh no, not again. Not yet another delusions of grandeur Eng-is-OP post.” But no, it wasn’t that at all. Good one, thank you. :-)

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Posted by: sunnypsyop.3025

sunnypsyop.3025

Nah HGH won’t be nerfed.. this is what all engineers should be playing.

this has the RGN, mid range figher survival and doesn’t kill too fast, this is what Anet invasions Engineers to be, average ( not saying the is bad, the build is awesome but simply doesnt have anything that “shines” )

I personally couldn’t help but giggle a bit at the title of this thread. Some fearsome predator.

I lol’d, too…

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

NevirSayDie.6235

My bet is on a nerf for +condition-duration food

Why? There’s absolutely no reason to. There is -duartion food and -duration runes. Both give better gain than whatever their “+” counterparts.

2seconds + 100% = 4seconds
4 seconds -50% = 2seconds

easier to get 50% shorter conditions than +100% conditions too.

I agree, and it’s actually even easier than that.

2 second bleed + 100% condition duration = 4 tics.

4 second bleed – 25% condition duration = 3 tics.

4 second bleed -26% condition duration = 2 tics. (there may be a rounding effect I’m not aware of. In general, my understanding is that any bleed under 3 seconds will not tic the third time.)

In other words, just eating the food for -40% condition duration on you could reduce condition damage by 50% or more. For example, take 40% off of a 3 second bleed and you have a bleed that tics once. I choose to use the + condition duration, but if this works the way I understand it, -condition duration is a much stronger buff in general.