Guild Wars 2

I’ve never played Engineer in PvE, but I’ve made alts atleast 20 times to play Engi in SPvP. I’m not very good with them, but I’d like to be eventually. I’m currently trying an HGH build in SPvP and i’m a bit confused. The tooltip on the toolbelt skills says I’ll get 2 stacks of might on use, but I’m only receiving 1 stack.

Is this meant to happen? ;3

it has always happened. if it’s meant to be happening.. it’s anyone’s guess.

my personal opinion is that it’s just a tooltip mistake, if tossed elixirs gave 2 stacks of might, getting 25 stacks would be even more trivial than what it is.

it gives 2 just not to you,its one for you and one for anyone in range of the toss tooltip just isn`t clear about it.

cottage.3274:

it gives 2 just not to you,its one for you and one for anyone in range of the toss tooltip just isn`t clear about it.

I see, thanks to both.

That makes no sense. As it can give up to 5 counting you and 4 others, I do not buy cottage’s explanation. It is either a bug or a tool tip error. File a report on it. The only way to get the problems solves is to raise attention to it.

ya i was also wondering this, i made a thread a week ago but didnt get much attention

Umm there’s some misinformation here…

At launch, HGH used to give only one stack of might for drinking or tossing an elixir. Then it was buffed to give two stacks for drinking only. The tooltip was changed to reflect the buff, but it doesn’t specifically say that the toolbelt skills only give one.

Tossing will give might to everyone you hit, up to five (counting yourself).

coglin.1867:

That makes no sense. As it can give up to 5 counting you and 4 others, I do not buy cottage’s explanation. It is either a bug or a tool tip error. File a report on it. The only way to get the problems solves is to raise attention to it.

whats not to buy? it does as i said if its a bug its there from the hgh buff and bug report as been made a long time ago trust me.
more like tool tip error if you can call it a error at all since it give 2 might just not to you(you can be picky and say it can give 5 might if 4 ppl are in range).
and since they are working on tooltips alot this days all you can do is w8 for it to be fix and be more clear about the use.

and just to be clear since the hgh buff (nads nerf patch) the notes didnt say anything on the toss and when i tried it i made a bug report still nothing to this day i think there was post here also on the issue and ofc no dev made a reply.
anyway this is a nonissue its fine as is imo

Whats not to buy? Well your explanation as a whole, claiming it says 2 stacks of might by suggesting that it is because it gives one to you and one to someone else, when it gives to you and up to 4 others.

The fact that it is a tool tip error is more likely and reasonable. If you think it is fine and a “nonissue” as you suggest, that is fine, you are entitled to accept inaccuracies. That doesn’t mean the rest of us have to be okay with the same mistakes your willing to accept.

now read it again coglin

it gives 2 just not to you,its one for you AND ONE FOR ANYONE IN RANGE of the toss tooltip just isn`t clear about it.

how is that not the explanation as a whole i don`t know seems the op understood but you like always need to be fussy.
well enjoy this wasn’t to help you it was for the op and it did ,you had like 12 months to bug report it and you didnt coz you didnt know ,well now you do, feel free to file it.

Interesting, I am now “fussy” because 1+ up to 4 more doesn’t equal 2, and for acknowledging that you think it is appropriate to make backhanded remarks?

Do you try to slide insults at everyone who doesn’t buy your explanation when it opposes the devs reply on the thread on this in the “Game Bug” sub forums?

cottage.3274:

it gives 2 just not to you,its one for you and one for anyone in range of the toss tooltip just isn`t clear about it.

No tooltip/skill combo works like that in this game. For example, staff Empower on Guardian hands out 4 stacks of might to up to 5 people in the area per pulse. Abilities that give out stacks of Bleeding give it out to each target hit and the tooltip clearly shows how many stacks of Bleeding each target get.

It’s quite clear their program architecture has the associated ability tooltips inherit the text from the traits’ tooltips. In this case, though, they modify the toss elixirs to not get the full benefit of HGH, while not modifying the inherited tooltip information.

And, IMO, there’s no good justification for why they decided to weaken the HGH effect on Toss Elixirs, nor is there a good reason why it doesn’t benefit the Elixir named skills of the Elixir Gun. All of the skills are far more difficult to use well than many of the other types of group support skills, like insta-cast shouts or even blast finishers in combo fields. I really don’t understand why Arenanet made that choice.

NevirSayDie.6235:

At launch, HGH used to give only one stack of might for drinking or tossing an elixir. Then it was buffed to give two stacks for drinking only. The tooltip was changed to reflect the buff, but it doesn’t specifically say that the toolbelt skills only give one.

Quoting myself because we’re still arguing about it for some reason. Toolbelt might was never nerfed, it just wasn’t buffed. The tooltip doesn’t reflect that. It’s a minor tooltip error that’s confusing because HGH got buffed. Also, I don’t care if you throw an elixir at yourself and one ally or yourself and four allies, it will give one stack of might to all of them, as it has since launch.

Can the engineer forums go back to being a cool place please?