Hammer Shield comparison

Hammer Shield comparison

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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I’m a huge fan of the upcoming hammer, no question. But am I the only one who finds it extremly odd that for example the hammer reflect has 6 sec CD whereas the shield reflect has 30 sec CD, aswell the hammer block is around 20 sec CD and the shield stun has a 40 sec CD.

I mean sure, those aren’t the same skills and you got like a blast and a throwable stun on shield, but my god look at these numbers!? 6 sec -> 30 sec / 20 sec -> 40 sec

Shouldn’t the shield be the most rewarding defensive option a profession has to offer?? I know the skills 1-5 are sorted by CD, but the guard has exactly the same problem: Skill 4-5 are just too weak for their CD on the shield. They evaded this rule at the mesmer by reducing the CD of skill 5 when you catch it again … Why not just drop that silly “rule” since it’s no help anyway …

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Posted by: Kodama.6453

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I’m a huge fan of the upcoming hammer, no question. But am I the only one who finds it extremly odd that for example the hammer reflect has 6 sec CD whereas the shield reflect has 30 sec CD, aswell the hammer block is around 10 (don’t know the exact number on this one) sec and the shield stun has a 40 sec CD.

I mean sure, those aren’t the same skills and you got like a blast and a throwable stun on shield, but my god look at these numbers!? 6 sec -> 30 sec / ~10 sec -> 40 sec

Shouldn’t the shield be the most rewarding defensive option a profession has to offer?? I know the skills 1-5 are sorted by CD, but the guard has exactly the same problem: Skill 4-5 are just too weak for their CD on the shield. They evaded this rule at the mesmer by reducing the CD of skill 5 when you catch it again … Why not just drop that silly “rule” since it’s no help anyway …

I don’t think so. Actually, because engineer has just one MH option → pistol, the weapon set P/S is our condition defensive set. Hammer is our power defensive set now. I’m totally fine with that.

And engineer shield still has some advantages. Like one extra blast finisher. Skill 5 is able to interrupt evasion skills (very rare in this game, I just know shocking aura and this skill that are able to do that).

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Posted by: Epoch.5396

Epoch.5396

I’m a huge fan of the upcoming hammer, no question. But am I the only one who finds it extremly odd that for example the hammer reflect has 6 sec CD whereas the shield reflect has 30 sec CD, aswell the hammer block is around 10 (don’t know the exact number on this one) sec and the shield stun has a 40 sec CD.

I mean sure, those aren’t the same skills and you got like a blast and a throwable stun on shield, but my god look at these numbers!? 6 sec -> 30 sec / ~10 sec -> 40 sec

Shouldn’t the shield be the most rewarding defensive option a profession has to offer?? I know the skills 1-5 are sorted by CD, but the guard has exactly the same problem: Skill 4-5 are just too weak for their CD on the shield. They evaded this rule at the mesmer by reducing the CD of skill 5 when you catch it again … Why not just drop that silly “rule” since it’s no help anyway …

Ye i thought the same thing myself.
I love reflects and I am really happy with hammer but it seems shield CDs look a bit long in comparison. I guess it sells the elite spec and Shield does have the extra’s.

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

Chaith.8256

I’m a huge fan of the upcoming hammer, no question. But am I the only one who finds it extremly odd that for example the hammer reflect has 6 sec CD whereas the shield reflect has 30 sec CD, aswell the hammer block is around 10 (don’t know the exact number on this one) sec and the shield stun has a 40 sec CD.

I mean sure, those aren’t the same skills and you got like a blast and a throwable stun on shield, but my god look at these numbers!? 6 sec -> 30 sec / ~10 sec -> 40 sec

Shouldn’t the shield be the most rewarding defensive option a profession has to offer?? I know the skills 1-5 are sorted by CD, but the guard has exactly the same problem: Skill 4-5 are just too weak for their CD on the shield. They evaded this rule at the mesmer by reducing the CD of skill 5 when you catch it again … Why not just drop that silly “rule” since it’s no help anyway …

I’ve always thought the shield cooldowns were hefty.

The Hammer 4 Block is on a 20 second cooldown, by the way. Not 10, you’re thinking of Rocket Charge.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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I don’t think so. Actually, because engineer has just one MH option -> pistol, the weapon set P/S is our condition defensive set. Hammer is our power defensive set now. I’m totally fine with that.

And engineer shield still has some advantages. Like one extra blast finisher. Skill 5 is able to interrupt evasion skills (very rare in this game, I just know shocking aura and this skill that are able to do that).

Pistol MH is not forced to be a condi weapon. In pve you can go P/S just for the blind, reflect, block for places like harpy fractal, since you won’t ever use it’s auto neither as condi, nor as power engi anyway.

The point here is not to find a role where the shield belongs, nor the whole P/S – hammer setup. It’s about that the shield skills (even IF they have like another blast as I mentioned in my post wich makes them slightly better), they DO NOT deserve such an immense CD difference compared to the hammer. That’s what I mean.

I’ve always thought the shield cooldowns were hefty.

The Hammer 4 Block is on a 20 second cooldown, by the way. Not 10, you’re thinking of Rocket Charge.

Yea that’s what I thought too. And thanks for the 20 sec CD thing, gonna change that in my post now

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