Hard counter hammer warriors?

Hard counter hammer warriors?

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Posted by: mikeew.8607

mikeew.8607

How do we hard counter them with their perma knockdowns and seemingly tankyness. It is a bit of a ridiculous mechanic imo but how do you all counter it.

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Posted by: Werkuh.2579

Werkuh.2579

dodge, knockback, shield-block.. just to name a few options. The hammer skills are highly telegraphed, almost impossible to miss, and the chain they use is well known, so this shouldn’t really be a problem. When it comes to kill them, depends on the build you use, can’t tell you a way in general except: use poison to somewhat negate the healing signet

edit: a well placed gearshield-block will almost always counter a stunchain, for most warriors tend to cast their chain in one go, no matter what.

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Posted by: Ralkuth.1456

Ralkuth.1456

If you do get caught, stunbreak and dodge Backbreaker or stunbreak after.
Engi is all about active defense, so blind and dodge and block and CC them.
If you get immob’d by the Hammer 3, get your Gear Shield out right meow. Prybar’ing face afterwards is optional.

Some mindgames/stereotypes:
If you Overcharge them but hold onto your Immob, they will likely Earthshaker you… dodge.
If you Overcharge them and Immob then throw nades at them they will likely pop stances or LB F1… Poison/Chill after then kite like crazy and dodge the Earthshaker after Chill ends. If you blind them they have to clear it first and if you watch they might just switch from LB to Hammer (you can see the intell sigil proc) for the F1… dodge

Box of Nails and Chill nades are your best friends (when zerker stance not up) and allows you to throw crap at your feet. Pan camera behind while running away and dodge anything that looks like a hammer skill.

Remember your mini burst rotation is (continue to follow up as you can initiate at any part of the full rotation):
Stealth → Magnet → Prybar/Barrage → Overcharge → Throw Wrench → Net Shot → Nades
(melee initiation) (Gear Shield; defensive) → Overcharge → Throw Wrench → Magnet → Prybar/Barrage → Net Shot → Nades (blind and chill first to kite)

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

protection injection + stabilized armor = hard countered

they will literally auto lose by holding a hammer. but most builds wont run that, specially if youre talkin about pvp and not wvw, it tends to be a waste of points in pvp.

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

protection injection + stabilized armor = hard countered

they will literally auto lose by holding a hammer. but most builds wont run that, specially if youre talkin about pvp and not wvw, it tends to be a waste of points in pvp.

Personally I really love that trait combo. I also use smoke bomb to keep a few blinds up. Otherwise they have big tells for what to dodge.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

protection injection + stabilized armor = hard countered

they will literally auto lose by holding a hammer. but most builds wont run that, specially if youre talkin about pvp and not wvw, it tends to be a waste of points in pvp.

Personally I really love that trait combo. I also use smoke bomb to keep a few blinds up. Otherwise they have big tells for what to dodge.

i could easily just be terrible at pvp and it could be as good as i think it is in wvw :P

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

Protection injection is fine. Stabilized armor is crap.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

Protection injection is fine. Stabilized armor is crap.

not when you put in another 2 and get the heal reset and power shoes

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

Protection injection is fine. Stabilized armor is crap.

not when you put in another 2 and get the heal reset and power shoes

Heal reset is nice. Not having 50% vigor uptime and perma swiftness is not.

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