Guild Wars 2

Lets face it, its not really that bad and there is a good chance that the changes to speed kits will only effect the 60606/06606 builds so here is a list of options that you can take.

take med kit, perma swiftness
take pack runes, perma swiftness in combat and itll last a while outside of combat.
take runes of air, perma swiftness and combine it with the aim-assisted rocket/fire/air/takedown round/bunker down and your going to 1 shot glassy enemys that thought it was a good idear to attack you.
take centaur runes, perma swiftness and take it with mecha legs and youve got 83% reduction to cripple making condi removal that much easier.

see isnt all that bad is it? i for one am looking forward to these changes.

Rune of the centaur only reduces Cripple durration. Still 83% shorter cripple must be nice.

Are.1326:

Rune of the centaur only reduces Cripple durration. Still 83% shorter cripple must be nice.

so it does, never had to use em befor and its fixed

All the solutions are very bad
Med kit → extra clicks
¿Sacrifice my runes? Come on! All class can do that

We are engis, we need kiting

Elixir B revival! Maybe? No…?

No…

Banumiel.1926:

All the solutions are very bad
Med kit -> extra clicks
¿Sacrifice my runes? Come on! All class can do that

We are engis, we need kiting

mesmers need kiting more and dont have swiftness? i cant think of another class that dosent intelligently need to do something in order to get perma swiftness, also med kit is going to be an amazing kit to take with the right builds so its not like your going to be forced to take you will want to take it.

ukuni.8745:

mesmers need kiting more and dont have swiftness? i cant think of another class that dosent intelligently need to do something in order to get perma swiftness, also med kit is going to be an amazing kit to take with the right builds so its not like your going to be forced to take you will want to take it.

We have clones like the mesmer?
Mesmer is other class with OTHER characteristics, we need mobility

Banumiel.1926:

ukuni.8745:

mesmers need kiting more and dont have swiftness? i cant think of another class that dosent intelligently need to do something in order to get perma swiftness, also med kit is going to be an amazing kit to take with the right builds so its not like your going to be forced to take you will want to take it.

We have clones like the mesmer?
Mesmer is other class with OTHER characteristics, we need mobility

thats all you took from this?

also mobility and kiting are 2 different things make up your mind.

Editing for more clarity, there are a whole lotta new builds and you wont need to worry about kiting, if you want perma swiftness your going to need to look into those runes otherwise your genna be fine.

Yamsandjams.3267:

Elixir B revival! Maybe? No…?

No…

considering HGH builds are going to be alot more effective now its going to be a pritty viable option to take elixir B in an elixir build, of course you wont be able to run it as a supportive build but as a dedicated zerker or condi build its going to pack a punch, now that might not be completely viable for top tier pvp but for roaming and solo que and general shenanigans its going to be a pritty potent build to run again.

ukuni.8745:

Banumiel.1926:

ukuni.8745:

mesmers need kiting more and dont have swiftness? i cant think of another class that dosent intelligently need to do something in order to get perma swiftness, also med kit is going to be an amazing kit to take with the right builds so its not like your going to be forced to take you will want to take it.

We have clones like the mesmer?
Mesmer is other class with OTHER characteristics, we need mobility

thats all you took from this?

also mobility and kiting are 2 different things make up your mind.

Mesmer has a lot of in combat mobility to aid it’s kiting. If it just ran around it would die to most.

Blink, Staff 2, Sword 3 I leap, and Stealth all help it in kiting.

Engineer is limited in this capacity, so please, apples and oranges.

PistolWhip.2697:

ukuni.8745:

Banumiel.1926:

ukuni.8745:

mesmers need kiting more and dont have swiftness? i cant think of another class that dosent intelligently need to do something in order to get perma swiftness, also med kit is going to be an amazing kit to take with the right builds so its not like your going to be forced to take you will want to take it.

We have clones like the mesmer?
Mesmer is other class with OTHER characteristics, we need mobility

thats all you took from this?

also mobility and kiting are 2 different things make up your mind.

Mesmer has a lot of in combat mobility to aid it’s kiting. If it just ran around it would die to most.

Blink, Staff 2, Sword 3 I leap, and Stealth all help it in kiting.

Engineer is limited in this capacity, so please, apples and oranges.

so your telling me that with all the trait changes and without perma swiftness there is absolutely no way your going to be able to safely get around a fight without getting trained down and killed?

ukuni.8745:

considering HGH builds are going to be alot more effective

They merged HGH with Potent Elixirs, but where is Fast-Acting Elixirs?

ukuni.8745:

considering HGH

speaking of hgh

haste and QZ are getting their drawbacks removed
= unmentioned U buff

cuz i mean U is kinda meh right now and the only real time to take it is when your dungeon group needs projectile protection and you have no guardian… but it IS an elixir and a stunbreak and the toss is situationally solid

without the drawbacks its prolly close to the level of S

Banumiel.1926:

ukuni.8745:

considering HGH builds are going to be alot more effective

They merged HGH with Potent Elixirs, but where is Fast-Acting Elixirs?

im hoping there was a typo but if there wasnt we will still be getting a 40% increase to durations and a reduced pritty nice reduction on toss elixirs cds, remember we never were able to take tools with the build so ontop of the 5 seconds shaved off we will have an extra 15% taken off so we will have some much smaller cds there which means alot more condi removal and alot more boon upkeep, we also never got vigor with the build which is another thing itll be getting alot more of then other builds and and we will have the option to take boon duration runes over might duration runes and still get an easy 20+ might stacks.

Banumiel.1926:

ukuni.8745:

considering HGH builds are going to be alot more effective

They merged HGH with Potent Elixirs, but where is Fast-Acting Elixirs?

I was wondering this as well. That was part of the backbone for elixir builds, but it seems to be absent.

Mind you, if it is gone, there was still some good things traded for it.

I’ll probably be switching my build to explosives/firearms/alchemy or firearms/alchemy/tools depending on whether I’m running grenade kit or not (usually only use grenades in PvE).

One of the oddest things they said is that mortar kit skill 5 counts as an elixir skill for trait purposes… does that mean some of the elixir gun skills that are still labelled elixirs will get that treatment?

Yamsandjams.3267:

Banumiel.1926:

ukuni.8745:

considering HGH builds are going to be alot more effective

They merged HGH with Potent Elixirs, but where is Fast-Acting Elixirs?

I was wondering this as well. That was part of the backbone for elixir builds, but it seems to be absent.

Mind you, if it is gone, there was still some good things traded for it.

I’ll probably be switching my build to explosives/firearms/alchemy or firearms/alchemy/tools depending on whether I’m running grenade kit or not (usually only use grenades in PvE).

One of the oddest things they said is that mortar kit skill 5 counts as an elixir skill for trait purposes… does that mean some of the elixir gun skills that are still labelled elixirs will get that treatment?

I was thinking that to, if it were to happen i could see an amazing elixir support build coming outta the woodworks but i guess we will have to see in a week

ukuni.8745:

im hoping there was a typo but if there wasnt we will still be getting a 40% increase to durations

No is a 40% increase because we loss the 30% Boon duration from 6 in Alchemy.