Help/suggestions on my Condi PvP Build

Help/suggestions on my Condi PvP Build

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Posted by: KevinB.9643

KevinB.9643

Good day,

I recently started to use an Engi for SPVP and I was thinking of using a condi-build instead of the meta Celestial-rifle build (I used that build as well, but I wasn’t really font of it).

I got inspired by some condi P/P build and decided to use that build and made some alterations.

So here I am, asking for some help/tips/suggestions/rotations ect.

Here is my build so far:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalUUpPrlcxvLseRCbBNqxAyJuBRuxq8xIEAA-TpgMgAA7PQXGAA

Thanks for the help in advance.

(edited by KevinB.9643)

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Posted by: ArrDee.2573

ArrDee.2573

A build that focuses on Bomb Kit works better with pistol/shield! Shield synergizes very well with all the fields from the Bomb Kit and there’s so much burning from Fire Bomb and Incendiary Powder already that there’s absolutely no need for offhand pistol!

In my experience, a Bomb Kit build absolutely needs Elixir Gun! Unlike grenades where the auto attack can be decent from all the vulnerability and Sharpshooter/Shrapnel bleed stacks you can get, the Bomb Kit auto is absolutely worthless on a condi build! There will be a point where your condi bombs and pistol skills are on cooldown and you’ll obviously want to keep up the pressure! This is where spamming Tranquilizer Dart comes into play! It’s incredibly powerful and provides a stunbreak whereas Rocket Boots does not! With the meta heavily saturated with Fear Me Warriors and Rifle Engis, you’ll be glad you have a stunbreak, especially since you need to be in melee range to make good use of Bomb Kit! Elixir Gun is also good for attacking people at range! Most of the time it’s wiser to stay on the outskirts of a team fight and spam ranged attacks rather than going into the fray and eating cleave! Tranquilizer Dart is a much better option than Fragmentation Shot!

You’ll definitely want to drop Infused Precision and take Short Fuse! Bomb Kit cooldown reduction is really powerful and you also get 10% more condi duration! Your bombs will also apply vulnerability which is an excellent cover condition! You’ll also definitely want Forceful Explosives! That is a key trait in any build that runs Bomb Kit!

Overall, I’d recommend this version!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqelUUpPrlcxdLseRSaBNq0AqQIyQulPPhDEAA-TJRHwAV2fIwDAIZZAAnAAA

But honestly with the huge amount of AoE condi clear from shoutbows, Healing Turrets, Virtues of Resolve, etc., I find the usefulness of Balthazar Runes to be questionable! If your burns are constantly being removed before they benefit from the extra burn duration, doesn’t that lessen or even negate the value of extra burn duration? I think so! Therefore I always use Vee Wee patented Adventurer Rune builds! With this version you can keep the 20 point investment in Alchemy but are able to take Protection Injection which is a huge boon vs the insanely common celestial Engineers, turret Engineers, and power Necromancers and still have enough dodges with Energy Sigil! Like so!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqelUUpdrlcxPLseRSaBNu0AGROyt85JEgDA-TJRHwA92fIZZAAnAABPAAA

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Posted by: Dimes.6024

Dimes.6024

agree on everything but

But honestly with the huge amount of AoE condi clear from shoutbows, Healing Turrets, Virtues of Resolve, etc., I find the usefulness of Balthazar Runes to be questionable! If your burns are constantly being removed before they benefit from the extra burn duration, doesn’t that lessen or even negate the value of extra burn duration? I think so!

100 power is nothing, and additional 5.75 sec burning is > 1 dodge for me.

as Veewee said – there is a lot of cleanese theese days, so more sources of re-applying (not just stacking duration) burning is improving your wining chances

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Posted by: KevinB.9643

KevinB.9643

Thnx for the replies, really usefull.

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

A build that focuses on Bomb Kit works better with pistol/shield! Shield synergizes very well with all the fields from the Bomb Kit and there’s so much burning from Fire Bomb and Incendiary Powder already that there’s absolutely no need for offhand pistol!

In my experience, a Bomb Kit build absolutely needs Elixir Gun! Unlike grenades where the auto attack can be decent from all the vulnerability and Sharpshooter/Shrapnel bleed stacks you can get, the Bomb Kit auto is absolutely worthless on a condi build! There will be a point where your condi bombs and pistol skills are on cooldown and you’ll obviously want to keep up the pressure! This is where spamming Tranquilizer Dart comes into play! It’s incredibly powerful and provides a stunbreak whereas Rocket Boots does not! With the meta heavily saturated with Fear Me Warriors and Rifle Engis, you’ll be glad you have a stunbreak, especially since you need to be in melee range to make good use of Bomb Kit! Elixir Gun is also good for attacking people at range! Most of the time it’s wiser to stay on the outskirts of a team fight and spam ranged attacks rather than going into the fray and eating cleave! Tranquilizer Dart is a much better option than Fragmentation Shot!

You’ll definitely want to drop Infused Precision and take Short Fuse! Bomb Kit cooldown reduction is really powerful and you also get 10% more condi duration! Your bombs will also apply vulnerability which is an excellent cover condition! You’ll also definitely want Forceful Explosives! That is a key trait in any build that runs Bomb Kit!

Overall, I’d recommend this version!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqelUUpPrlcxdLseRSaBNq0AqQIyQulPPhDEAA-TJRHwAV2fIwDAIZZAAnAAA

But honestly with the huge amount of AoE condi clear from shoutbows, Healing Turrets, Virtues of Resolve, etc., I find the usefulness of Balthazar Runes to be questionable! If your burns are constantly being removed before they benefit from the extra burn duration, doesn’t that lessen or even negate the value of extra burn duration? I think so! Therefore I always use Vee Wee patented Adventurer Rune builds! With this version you can keep the 20 point investment in Alchemy but are able to take Protection Injection which is a huge boon vs the insanely common celestial Engineers, turret Engineers, and power Necromancers and still have enough dodges with Energy Sigil! Like so!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqelUUpdrlcxPLseRSaBNu0AGROyt85JEgDA-TJRHwA92fIZZAAnAABPAAA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

For wvw (not for spvp ) i prefer bomb to nades too for stealth . In my opinion you should evaluate to trade hair trigger for rifle barrel. Having more range is quite usefull ( you have no nades) and cd on pistol is not so important becouse you already have eg to swap to)