Help with my Commanding build! (Engi)
have you though about going condi? with full clerics you’ll do terrible physical damage without crit chance and damage, but with condi and your high burn, confusion, bleed, and poison uptime you’ll put out at least decent condition damage (1173 with 25 corruption stacks and tuning crystal which is ok), enough to solo camps. plus condition gear has stat combos that give you both high armor and health with healing power. maybe something like this:
acid bomb can be a good substitute for rocket boots when traveling. elixir gun also gives a stunbreaker and super elixir adds to your massive sustain. tool kit allows you to just walk into red circles when blocking and you can pull people off walls with magnet. box of nails helps if you’re being chased and prybar adds to your static shot, concussion bomb confusion stacks.
Thanks! I’ll try to incorporate some of that, although I’m not sure I want to run with 3 kits :/ the med kit is a must, along with bombs, here’s the latest one I’ve put together, I really am just focused on dropping bombs at my feet and surviving, the main priority.
well in a fight you’ll be mostly using bombs and pistol. tool kit and elixir gun are just your utilities to help you survive and they are great at it. tool kit block is just amazing. elixir gun can be used to disengage with 4 and super elixir again gives you crazy amounts of sustain (with regen, backpack regen, healing bomb spam, and super elixir it’s over 1000 hp/sec with only 950 healing power). and med kit is a perfectly fine substitution for healing turret. i just personally love healing turret.
i suppose if you don’t want to run 3 kits you could substitute one with rocket boots, elixir s, elixir r, prayer to kormir, elixir c, or slick shoes. i don’t think any of the other ones would do you much good with this particular style of play.
Ugh, Medkit is terrible for commanding. You’ll be kitten to heal if you get immobilized and you miss out on that regen for great sustain. The role of commander requires you to be able to tank a ton of damage and you need a lot of sustain. It is the job of those you are commanding to provide all the support and dps. It doesn’t take a whole lot of thought to figure out a build from there. Commanders do not need to take on more. You are not there for support and you are not there for dps. You are only there to stay up in a fight and command.
Chaba Tangnu
Founding member of [NERF] Fort Engineer and driver for [TLC] The Legion of Charrs
RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast
Founding member of [NERF] Fort Engineer and driver for [TLC] The Legion of Charrs
RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast
(edited by Chaba.5410)
You’ve got the right idea but honestly switching around your armor traits and abilities just a little could go a long way.
For abilities I understand not wanting to use 3 kits and I agree rocket boots are fantastic but you really should change out medkit for healing turret because the blast finisher and condition cleanse do wonders for survival.
I would also strongly recommend changing out elixir b for elixir gun because as it has already been said elixir gun offers some great utility abilities as well as another condition cleanse with healing.
For your traits your points look fine for what you want to do the only big change I would strongly recommend is changing fast-acting elixirs to protection injection because it is one of the best possible traits for survival in wvw.
And for armor I would recommend getting rid of any condition damage armor. Just split it between clerics and soldiers for a decent amount of survival mixed with healing.
Tl;dr
Healing turret and elixer gun. Protection Injection. No condition armor.
Maguuma Engi Evvenna
Things that go BOOM
Things that go BOOM
Thanks everyone! It’s helped a lot and I’m very happy with the build I’m slowly creating, and you’ve all helped a lot! Also Stillshade, What would you recommend for runes and sigils?
Like I said before the build is pretty solid so your runes and sigils are fine it really just comes down to personal preference with the runes. I don’t have any experience with runes of the water but they look like they should work great, I’d just suggest looking up the amount the extra healing it gives is and how well it scales. If you decide you don’t like runes of the water then you could try dolyak for the extra regen which would stack on top of the backpack regenerator, or melandru for the reduced stun and condition durations.
Maguuma Engi Evvenna
Things that go BOOM
Things that go BOOM
supportive and pretty much unkillable at all (only for condis cleansing of what is on other classes)
i chosen cheap food so u could use it when u got not enough moeny and it’s good when u getting stunned to much aswell. If u got enough stability in fights go lemongrass.
Healing turret – must be in big group espacially when u’re commanding. U know perfectly when it will be dropped and it can be blasted more succesfully then silent ele’s one.
If u won’t decent dmg i can post u one my other build for commanding that i used to run much more, but from what i’ve seen from your builds it will be hard to survive for u thogh.
Condis on engi bombs not for large-scale. Nades can be another story, but nades it’s backline build.
Best regards.
Handarand – Handacooon – Handa Panda – Handa Genie
have you though about going condi? with full clerics you’ll do terrible physical damage without crit chance and damage, but with condi and your high burn, confusion, bleed, and poison uptime you’ll put out at least decent condition damage (1173 with 25 corruption stacks and tuning crystal which is ok), enough to solo camps. plus condition gear has stat combos that give you both high armor and health with healing power. maybe something like this:
acid bomb can be a good substitute for rocket boots when traveling. elixir gun also gives a stunbreaker and super elixir adds to your massive sustain. tool kit allows you to just walk into red circles when blocking and you can pull people off walls with magnet. box of nails helps if you’re being chased and prybar adds to your static shot, concussion bomb confusion stacks.
problem with this setup is that necromancers and other condi builds will eat you alive. while your condi pressure will be intense, it won’t be enough to keep you alive against similar builds. 2 kits and 1 elixir a sustain engi does not make. recommending you take either bomb or tool kit.
As quick as the Valkyries ride,
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.
uh i did pick both bomb kit and tool kit and not running an elixir and running melandru + lemongrass so even with the engineer’s limited condi removal, the build should be ok with conditions.
(edited by ellesee.8297)
Final build! Putting it on my character as we speak! thanks for everything guys!!!!
uh i did pick both bomb kit and tool kit and not running an elixir and running melandru + lemongrass so even with the engineer’s limited condi removal, the build should be ok with conditions.
good luck then. i’m sure condi builds will fear you immensely.
As quick as the Valkyries ride,
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.
uh i’m not sure what that means, but
a. you didn’t even click on my link because you didn’t even know what utilities i was running so why are you talking to me
b. i don’t actually run this build (i did run something similar in tpvp to moderate success and condis are more powerful in tpvp) but with the lovely wvwvw food balance, i’d have -65% condition duration with a few cleanses and 23k+ health gaining over 1200 hp/second 50% of the time. i think i’ll be ok vs conditions, even signet of spite necros.
c. the build isn’t designed to kill anything except bad people, people who don’t run condition cleanse, and camps. it’s a tanky commander build like he wanted. it’s a bunker.
Final build! Putting it on my character as we speak! thanks for everything guys!!!!
this one is much much better!
but i think better use sigil of life to get heal power and still elixir B for own stability, quit hard to put down in big fights but u can get used to!
And u don’t need speedy kits if u commanding at all! Change it better to kit refienment so u will have pull and imobilize!!! Very nice utiliys, u will have perma swiftness from other classes, change to speedy when u cathing up or so.
and u missed forcefull explosive…quit must be for bombs
+passive in explosive gives bomb that heals your alies too)
Handarand – Handacooon – Handa Panda – Handa Genie
(edited by Hvaran.6327)