Guild Wars 2

Hey on the bright side at least A-net only trolled us once. Imagine constant communication saying something would be done and stilll have nothing

Come on A-net. I don’t want to save Tyria looking like a homeless guy. I’ve already done it once, and that’s more than enough.

I agree wholeheartedly with the goings on of this particular interweb forum post!

Oh wow I just stumbled across this! I can’t even bear the thought of making an engineer simply for the reason of hobo sacks, as appearance is everything in this game.

I’m mostly just posting this to help push this thing to the 20th page.

If they do keep the hobosacks, they should at least reskin them so they’re less hobo-y and more engineer-y.

Agreed.

They’ve apparently decided they’re going to do a Ready-Up about Engineers and Rangers, as a balance preview…they probably won’t mention Hobosacks, despite them being, given Bill’s last, long-ago comment, a balance concern.

Yesterday I started feeling “done” with yet another character and thought I’d get back to my still-low-level-after-two-years engineer. Spent half an hour or so reskinning and dying all the equipment until I felt good about the character and set off for adventure!

… and then I activated the grenade kit and remembered why I haven’t been playing engineer.

I really don’t see why we can’t be allowed to hide the kit backpacks. All weapon-switching classes second weapon set just vanishes when it’s not being used. For a long time there were no quivers. All skills throwing weapons can throw unlimited weapons. Why can’t our kits do the same?

People that are saying they don’t want the change…we aren’t asking for them to completely do away with the packs, just a simple hide/show option, like face armor or shoulder armor…pretty simple.

nearlight.3064:

Oh wow I just stumbled across this! I can’t even bear the thought of making an engineer simply for the reason of hobo sacks, as appearance is everything in this game.

Theril.2718:

… and then I activated the grenade kit and remembered why I haven’t been playing engineer.

With a lack of incentive to aim for cosmetic horizontal progression, less people play engineers. So they represent less of the player base. So they sink lower on the list of priorities. So the problem persists, and less people roll engineers.

One day a day may come when there are simply no more engineers. No more jumps in technology. Nobody to prevent the golem uprising, or protect the Black Citadel from the tyranny of Flame Legion heretical magics. In the ensuing choas, Elder Dragons will of course rampage unchecked, waypoints flickering out like candles in the wind. Cut off from foreign lands and friendly allies, besieged by their own, the races of Tyria will perish alone.

And when the Dragons have eaten their fill and return to slumber, only the undying Hobosack will remain, eternally awaiting the next cycle, a testament to our folly, a destroyer of worlds.

ninja sloth.2658:

nearlight.3064:

Oh wow I just stumbled across this! I can’t even bear the thought of making an engineer simply for the reason of hobo sacks, as appearance is everything in this game.

Theril.2718:

… and then I activated the grenade kit and remembered why I haven’t been playing engineer.

With a lack of incentive to aim for cosmetic horizontal progression, less people play engineers. So they represent less of the player base. So they sink lower on the list of priorities. So the problem persists, and less people roll engineers.

One day a day may come when there are simply no more engineers. No more jumps in technology. Nobody to prevent the golem uprising, or protect the Black Citadel from the tyranny of Flame Legion heretical magics. In the ensuing choas, Elder Dragons will of course rampage unchecked, waypoints flickering out like candles in the wind. Cut off from foreign lands and friendly allies, besieged by their own, the races of Tyria will perish alone.

And when the Dragons have eaten their fill and return to slumber, only the undying Hobosack will remain, eternally awaiting the next cycle, a testament to our folly, a destroyer of worlds.

They could at least give us shotguns...
… so we can start delivering justice, one shell at a time!

Basaltface.2786:

johnpoc.8732:

I’d rather have them fix static discharge hitting the floor when using AoE belt skills

how about we meet in the middle and fix the entire class from visuals to skills and make ALL skills\kits viable and usefull aswell the engineer´s visuals pretty?

Let’s start with explosives/mines and turrets.

And to the people missing the point, it’s not difficult to put in a checkbox to toggle displaying them.

tigirius.9014:

Basaltface.2786:

johnpoc.8732:

I’d rather have them fix static discharge hitting the floor when using AoE belt skills

how about we meet in the middle and fix the entire class from visuals to skills and make ALL skills\kits viable and usefull aswell the engineer´s visuals pretty?

Let’s start with explosives/mines and turrets.

And to the people missing the point, it’s not difficult to put in a checkbox to toggle displaying them.

Yea.. that checkbox is pretty much all thats asked for anyways. You can make your engi look kitten anytime… TILL you start to fight thats the issue

The press release for season 2 episode 3 of the living story states we’ll be able to “Begin construction of a new back item which will grow and change as your adventures continue in Episodes 3 and 4…”

I don’t think anything more needs to be said.

ninja sloth.2658:

With a lack of incentive to aim for cosmetic horizontal progression, less people play engineers. So they represent less of the player base. So they sink lower on the list of priorities. So the problem persists, and less people roll engineers.

One day a day may come when there are simply no more engineers.

Hit the nail on the head, here. When have to play piano to keep pace with a facerolling….ANYTHING, and always look like garbage while doing it, why play the class?

As far as this new backpack, we all know what it means. It means one more cool item we will never get to use.

to add a little bit more salt to the wound.. the flamers for the LS actually dont got a kittening hobosack. I really start to feel a-net is mocking us.. no joke

Basaltface.2786:

to add a little bit more salt to the wound.. the flamers for the LS actually dont got a kittening hobosack. I really start to feel a-net is mocking us.. no joke

How will the Mordrem know we’re using a Flamethrower!? Unfair!

Adamantium.3682:

Basaltface.2786:

to add a little bit more salt to the wound.. the flamers for the LS actually dont got a kittening hobosack. I really start to feel a-net is mocking us.. no joke

How will the Mordrem know we’re using a Flamethrower!? Unfair!

Ah yea totally forgot that an obvios flame jet isnt an indicator. Poor mordems.. they prolly where totally confused and couldnt handle engineers that didnt had a clipping galore on their back. My bad… you are totally right. A-net please mount hobosacks on the flamers else the poor mordem cant deal with it

Love the engineer, but yeah those back pieces just don’t fit the concept, they could use some art love from the artists. I swear I thought I saw one with a chicken the other day but I lost the toon in the crowd.

Come on Anet. Vanity is the endgame. Fix this!

titanlectro.5029:

Come on Anet. Vanity is the endgame. Fix this!

And now there’s even a back item that requires some Ascended-level crafting to make, with several missions of build-up and, overall, quite a lot of effort involved…that our kits will cover.

Seriously, can we maybe get some kind of ETA or general indication that this is even something that matters to the staff?

I just wanted to note in light of Mark’s dev post recently about necroing threads.

This thread definitely shouldn’t be considered a necro. Although it has gone dormant for periods at a time, it has stayed very active.

Please anet, just give engineers their little check boxes and this very old thread can be put to rest.

They seem to be looking mostly at threads that’ve not been posted in for thirty days or more…and this thread’s never been dormant for that long, as far as I can recall.

I just took the trouble and checked all 19 pages of our beloved thread.

Except for the first few where it only says “about a year ago” we can be sure that this thread has never been inactive for 30 days.

And I’m pretty sure it never will.

Mork vom Ork.2598:

I just took the trouble and checked all 19 pages of our beloved thread.

Except for the first few where it only says “about a year ago” we can be sure that this thread has never been inactive for 30 days.

And I’m pretty sure it never will.

Not as long as im arround.. bet your kitten about that

maybe they will just close it as soon as we reach 20 pages?

We could discuss gold selling in this thread. Nobody watches. Nobody cares.

lakdav.3694:

We could discuss gold selling in this thread. Nobody watches. Nobody cares.

i sell 20 gold for 200 euro. w/ in game all call by phone.

Hvaran.6327:

lakdav.3694:

We could discuss gold selling in this thread. Nobody watches. Nobody cares.

i sell 20 gold for 200 euro. w/ in game all call by phone.

i’ll take your 20 gold for 2000$, but you don’t pickup your phone!!!

Mork vom Ork.2598:

I just took the trouble and checked all 19 pages of our beloved thread.

Except for the first few where it only says “about a year ago” we can be sure that this thread has never been inactive for 30 days.

And I’m pretty sure it never will.

I wonder if there are any other threads on the forum that match that achievement?(Sticky threads don’t count.)

Please, give a option to remove this stuff ;/
It kept me from rly playing my ingi… and even now i hate him every time i equip a kit.

Soon 1000 replies, well played Anet. Give us kit progress for hobosuck, why do they all look the same at any lvl, or better give us option to turn it on/off. When I equip my kit it cover my back item, true power of engineer>>> I am flashing indicator, show on, show off, show on, show off, show on, show off, show on, seriously show must go OFF

Dimes.6024:

Hvaran.6327:

lakdav.3694:

We could discuss gold selling in this thread. Nobody watches. Nobody cares.

i sell 20 gold for 200 euro. w/ in game all call by phone.

i’ll take your 20 gold for 2000$, but you don’t pickup your phone!!!

was too many cutomers, i’ll tell girls to make a discount when u will call.

Btw, we can dsicuss any other staff here aswell as making it WvW Match-Up thread that they closed in another section (what was best pvp in this game).

Oh and i like a dev actually, i don’t bother much about hobo, dunno why people so hyped about this esepcially those asura engis, noone can see how you look like =p

This is in my opinion the biggest issue for the engineer.

I agree… this whole Hobo-sack thing is to an extent quite against what most of GW seems to be about.

There is a huge emphasis on aesthetics at end-game, and I mean huge, with Legendaries only offering small amounts of convenience and mainly aesthetic upgrades. And then you go sticking ugly hobo-sacks on Engineer’s backs? Surely it can’t be that difficult to put in a setting that allows you to simply hide them.

You could come up with the argument that that makes the Engineer’s skills less read-able, but aside from predicting the kit in use, the Flamethrower looks very unique, as well as the tool kit being un-mistakable and the same story with the Elixir Gun.

I really like the idea of the little buff-type thing which allows you to see what kit they’re using, and I think the simpler the better – a picture of a grenade for the grenade kit and so on…

Plz ANet

The Baws.5164:

I agree… this whole Hobo-sack thing is to an extent quite against what most of GW seems to be about.

There is a huge emphasis on aesthetics at end-game, and I mean huge, with Legendaries only offering small amounts of convenience and mainly aesthetic upgrades. And then you go sticking ugly hobo-sacks on Engineer’s backs? Surely it can’t be that difficult to put in a setting that allows you to simply hide them.

You could come up with the argument that that makes the Engineer’s skills less read-able, but aside from predicting the kit in use, the Flamethrower looks very unique, as well as the tool kit being un-mistakable and the same story with the Elixir Gun.

I really like the idea of the little buff-type thing which allows you to see what kit they’re using, and I think the simpler the better – a picture of a grenade for the grenade kit and so on…

Plz ANet

I actually did sort of an informal survey in the Balance boards about whether the backpack helps when fighting an Engineer at all, given Bill’s implied balance concerns.
The response was just about unanimous in saying “Hahah, what? No.” Most people, it seemed, went by the skills rather than the sack, which is really quite convenient, given that at least two of our sacks are identical, with a third nearly so.

At this point, I’m pretty certain that Anet just doesn’t care. It wouldn’t take much to give a choice, just ‘if this box is clicked, this set of assets is disabled,’ but they just will not bother to give one programmer a half-hour to throw it together. They could probably do it on their lunch break, if they wanted, but they’re theoretically busy with Living Story. I say ‘theoretically’ because the majority of the last Episode was composed of events that existed at launch, in locations that existed at launch, with only one or two really ‘new’ things.

The Hobo Sacks are also one of the reasons for me to run Static Discharge. Nevertheless, they are ugly and completeley unnecessary, so i support the idea of them being changed, in whatever way.

For me “hobosacks” are the reason why I play with a riffle. They look horrible. Sry but there realy should be an option to put them off!

I have legendaries, but no one could see them because hobosacks.

Why does ANET always show promo-screens for an Engineer using Predator, if in the real game other players rarely see our legendaries because hobosacks?

We represent the smallest portion of active players. So screw us, right?

Eastcorn.5901:

We represent the smallest portion of active players. So screw us, right?

And Charr.

I was thinking about comming back to this game. But with this bug still around?

NOPE, not happening!

yes the hobo sacks need to go. if it is a visual thing for other players then just make the kits visible in the hands. its not hard to see someone holding elixir gun , flamethrower, or wrench in their hands.

I think maybe flooding Anet’s offices with calls regarding hobosack removal would be more effective than posting in this thread at this point.

This post has stayed on the engie subforum front page for a year. Why has this (simple kittening) thing not been fixed? kitten Anet fix what’s broken before expanding further.

Dray.5497:

I think maybe flooding Anet’s offices with calls regarding hobosack removal would be more effective than posting in this thread at this point.

I live less than 5 miles from their office, maybe I should make a really ugly stinky sack to wear on my back (with otherwise very nice clothes) and go visit them.

Adamantium.3682:

Dray.5497:

I think maybe flooding Anet’s offices with calls regarding hobosack removal would be more effective than posting in this thread at this point.

I live less than 5 miles from their office, maybe I should make a really ugly stinky sack to wear on my back (with otherwise very nice clothes) and go visit them.

You’d be our hero. Take some pictures while you are at it.

Just dont smile. They might think that you enjoy the sack on your back. Dont forget to look miserable :P

Woooooo page 20!

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is there any restrictions on replies count in that forum? is it goonna be closed on 1000 replies?