Guild Wars 2

That Guy.5704:

Hey look more backpeices to conflict with hobosacks https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/crafting-backpacks-new-leveling-items-and-more/

I actually just caught onto this via MMO-Champion. Looks really nice… if we can actually get it to show for more than 2% of the time.

Stallerenox.1295:

That Guy.5704:

Hey look more backpeices to conflict with hobosacks https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/crafting-backpacks-new-leveling-items-and-more/

I actually just caught onto this via MMO-Champion. Looks really nice… if we can actually get it to show for more than 2% of the time.

Maybe the leatherworker one with the bear will be large enough to cover the hobosacks. Who knows.

That Guy.5704:

Hey look more backpeices to conflict with hobosacks https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/crafting-backpacks-new-leveling-items-and-more/

Anet went for the creative solution to hobo sacks…

ADD MOAR!!!!11111

That Guy.5704:

Hey look more backpeices to conflict with hobosacks https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/crafting-backpacks-new-leveling-items-and-more/

Ugh these are just from the chinese release…wonderful we are just getting handmedowns….

i thought it was hilarious when i saw the very engi looking backpack yet 2 years in we still have the hobo-sacks on our engis!

Well, aren’t we ahead of the curve! Soon everyone can have backpacks that clip through their heads. We just dont need to work for it at all. On the downside…. the previous 22 pages.

lakdav.3694:

Well, aren’t we ahead of the curve! Soon everyone can have backpacks that clip through their heads. We just dont need to work for it at all. On the downside…. the previous 22 pages.

Let’s shoot for 23! No one likes you when you’re 23…

I like the new backpacks, you know why?

Because until this moment, two of the biggest issues with engi packs, that they superseded any backpiece skins and often bug to have them overlap each other, were basically top tier problems; 99% of the backpiece skins were attached to Living story content, were ascended backpieces, or bought from the gem store/random BL chest drop (though one of the few back skins that didn’t follow this trend was the Engineer starting backpiece, but let’s ignore that for the sake of argument)

Now, it’s not just a problem for the vets, the hardcore players, and the gem buyers, but every Engineer across the leveling spectrum who puts any effort to keeping their gear up to date is going to have to deal with this issue, as the backpieces with skins they craft or buy off the TP get covered up by their hobosacks. It will raise public awareness of this issue, and perhaps finally, finally get something done about it.

I really hope one of the new features that are going to be announced next week is the option to turn off hobo-sacks… especially since they are releasing more backpack skins.

I just got a fractal capacitor skin and was so happy, running around like an idiot firing my dual pistols in joy. Then I realized I should probably get some of my dungeon rotation out of the way, so I swapped out that extra pistol for a shield so I can use the blast finisher. My happiness then faded as I watched the fractal capacitor disappear as my character placed the shield on his back. Then I thought “No worries, it will show with my other weapon sets!” Then I remembered I’m an engineer. /hurls self off the edge of Rata Sum

I really wish they would do something about this by now, I think we all waited long enough to get rid of our hobosacks.

Nothing as dissapointing as coming up with a nice new outfit including fitting weapon/shield, only to have it ruined by some backpack you stole from a homeless…

I really cant imagine it being that hard to come up with a cheap solution, maybe they can even come up with a different set of skill for the kits that would equip the same kit, but then without the backpack. Sure that might look a bit confusing for some people at first, but it would make more people happy to play and actually see their backitem.

Guess what? New backpacks today as well!
Oh, we are so happy.

…yet again, they completely ignore us…

I don’t really understand the delay on a toggle switch in the character screen for hobosacks to be turned off, at no time have I ever seen anyone in PVP know what kit someone is wearing by the backpack on their character and adjust their strat accordingly. It’s ridiculous.

I still don’t buy the nonsense that Anet told us months ( years now?) ago about it being the tell that is needed for the enemy to react. Nope not buying it when tool kit is the same as bomb kit.

I’m guessing that we will also get shafted when the crafting backpacks come out. Great, thanks for nothing.

my dear engies, please go to this post and keep it on top page! it’s a page where devs usually answer only if a post has lots of views and replies (or so it seems).
people are actually agreeing with it on that subforum so don’t waste this oportunity to seize anet and destroy the Hobosacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/No-hobbo-sack-fix-sigh/first#post4363362

Saephaan.7285:

my dear engies, please go to this post and keep it on top page! it’s a page where devs usually answer only if a post has lots of views and replies (or so it seems).
people are actually agreeing with it on that subforum so don’t waste this oportunity to seize anet and destroy the Hobosacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/No-hobbo-sack-fix-sigh/first#post4363362

They will probably just move it here or merge it with this one.

titanlectro.5029:

Saephaan.7285:

my dear engies, please go to this post and keep it on top page! it’s a page where devs usually answer only if a post has lots of views and replies (or so it seems).
people are actually agreeing with it on that subforum so don’t waste this oportunity to seize anet and destroy the Hobosacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/No-hobbo-sack-fix-sigh/first#post4363362

They will probably just move it here or merge it with this one.

That would be an acknowledgement of the existence of both threads. Sooo… progress i guess.

I was really hoping that the feature pack would announce the end of hobosacks, too…

Eastcorn.5901:

I was really hoping that the feature pack would announce the end of hobosacks, too…

Same, it would be such a simple thing to add in. Instead they added a looting system which is going to hurt us significantly when it comes to loot value, seeing as we wear leather and use no valuable weapons.

Hopefully they can at least add a 600-gem “Endless Lipstick Tonic” to the store so we engies can at least make ourselves look pretty before we bend over to take the upcoming patch.

Piogre.2164:

Eastcorn.5901:

I was really hoping that the feature pack would announce the end of hobosacks, too…

Same, it would be such a simple thing to add in. Instead they added a looting system which is going to hurt us significantly when it comes to loot value, seeing as we wear leather and use no valuable weapons.

Hopefully they can at least add a 600-gem “Endless Lipstick Tonic” to the store so we engies can at least make ourselves look pretty before we bend over to take the upcoming patch.

yea.. they seem to just love to kitten on the couch of the medium class… might aswell add an head slot skin with smeared up makeup and a tattered dress that gives you bruises all over to make it complete

To be fair its a small enough thing that i wouldnt expect any anouncement and fanfare around it being resolved. If or when it happens, it will probably be a minor note. It may even be unnoted.

So many new backpieces… so many hobofied

At least they don’t clip with other back pieces any more …

it’s something.

Hobosacks still not fixed. Welp.

NoxInfernus.2361:

At least they don’t clip with other back pieces any more …

it’s something.

Such a kitten move!
Anet: “Oh so you guys had issues with the backpieces clipping through the hobosacks? No problem! We just disabled the backpieces completely when you equip a kit”
Engineer: “But..I thought i could at least overwrite them with the new crafting backpieces so at least i get some choice..”
Anet: “lolnop…go play warrior if you want to look good!”

Want nice things? Well you better dont play engineer kitteners. kitten your love for the class, you dont deserve nice things. See all these crafting backpacks… or look at the big new flag we added. Like them? HA! Jokes on you suckers.. you dont see em. -_- Why a-net…

NoxInfernus.2361:

At least they don’t clip with other back pieces any more …

it’s something.

Yes, they still do clip. No change.

You know what sucks? Occasionally we mention priorities, how hobo-sacks are not a priority compared to other bigger issues. And i agree, there are bigger issues.

The problem is that there will always be bigger issues. A-net makes them. With every feature patch comes a plethora of broken features, either trully broken or “working as intended with ways to improve”. Not even mentioning balancing issues or server crashes (There is not a single patch where the 2nd post about it has no “Fixed various server crashes”).

Think ill just stick with full-turrets/gadgets/potions builds until i no longer find the will to play.

Piogre.2164:

NoxInfernus.2361:

At least they don’t clip with other back pieces any more …

it’s something.

Yes, they still do clip. No change.

Then it’s a case by case basis, because before the patch my spinal back piece ‘wings’ would clip through my kit packs terribly (didn’t mind too much as the effect was kind of cool).
Now, when I wear my FT kit all traces of the spinal are gone until I stow the kit.

Tested on my 2nd Engineer with a variety of other pack pieces (slick pack, jet pack, gem shop, etc) – All traces of clipping are gone.
I admit I do not have the SAB back piece, so maybe they forgot about that one.

well its pretty much the opposide of what we asked for…well atleast it fits right into the feature patch that way

um. this thread has been up since forever. its a really minor thing. why isn’t it fixed already?!

GigglyPants.3291:

um. this thread has been up since forever. its a really minor thing. why isn’t it fixed already?!

Because they were too busy revamping the Miniatures system so that you can have them with you at all times, except when out of towns, due to the buggy miniature suppression system. And, of course, adding new backpacks to clip through the hobosacks, for new and exciting terrible appearances!

Oh, and then there’s the things they changed in a hurry without bothering to actually consider the long-term consequences, like ‘go kill the Sovereign Eye of Zhaitan’ now coming before ‘Zhaitan has Eyes!’ and NPCs like the Largos chick not being introduced, but your character still somehow knowing them.

I am getting really tired of this. I didn’t buy a game two bloody years ago so I could be in an extended Beta.

As far as this goes, as has been said so many times: It’s not a balance concern, and it’s not logical. Two kits are identical but for a wrench, kit-users ping-pong through kits too fast for ‘oh, he’s got that bag on’ to even be viable as part of counterplay, especially due to kits being on the player’s back, making it difficult to see them anyway. Kit-dancing is pretty much as the devs intended the class to be played, too, going by the constant stream of buggery like the Class Balance Philosophy, our lack of weapon choices, our lack of a weapon-swap, our plethora of Kit and on-Kit-use traits, so what’s the deal here?

Essentially, this class, played as the devs intended, is prevented from fully enjoying Legendaries or Back Items, two of the major reward sets, because…why? Because there’s too much manpower being dedicated to revamping the Hero Screen and making minis persistent (except you still can’t bloody see them when adventuring)? Nobody bothers to give us an actual answer, and Anet’s apparent policies pretty much guarantee they won’t – regardless of there being a year’s worth of posts in a single thread.

I still think we need to do more to get devs to fix this ASAP.

Like mass reporting it as a bug or something.

so basically ANET doesn’t care about us. they are going to forget about this and us. I wish there was a way to actually get something about this from a dev, but unfortunatly I can’t think of a way to do so when they are just ignoring us.

Guys, I have trouble seeing which attunement elementalists are in; their elemental wristbands are too hard to see. I think Anet needs to add a large backpack to elementalists which showcases what element they are attuned to. They can remove the buff icon, then.

:D

Maybe I should suggest this on the profession balance forum.

Eastcorn.5901:

Guys, I have trouble seeing which attunement elementalists are in; their elemental wristbands are too hard to see. I think Anet needs to add a large backpack to elementalists which showcases what element they are attuned to. They can remove the buff icon, then.

:D

Maybe I should suggest this on the profession balance forum.

yea…or to give us kittening bloody attument like icons and have it done with.. man re-use the kit icons and kittening done…ugh

I’m really surprised this thread still exists, and that the problem still persists.

So here we are. Two years since launch, one year since the start of this thread. How is this still not addressed? I would love to play an Engineer, but I refuse to do so until something is done about this. It is ludicrous that in a game based on aesthetic rewards you would force one profession to lug around these hideous….“hobo sacks” really is the only good term for them.

Maybe we should also post en masse on the “communicating with you” thread.

Great ANet now you really ruined the backitems… My wings are now not visible again, I could have lived with them clipping through the back item, but now I HAVE NOTHING!!! REALLY!!!!

I’m so kittenngjgj angry right now! ANet seriously, just disable those kittening bullkitten hobosacks once and for all!!! It’s not funny anymore! REALLYèUJFIDJFG OE
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Xyonon.3987:

Great ANet now you really ruined the backitems… My wings are now not visible again, I could have lived with them clipping through the back item, but now I HAVE NOTHING!!! REALLY!!!!

I’m so kittenngjgj angry right now! ANet seriously, just disable those kittening bullkitten hobosacks once and for all!!! It’s not funny anymore! REALLYèUJFIDJFG OE
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After 15 years of MMOing, this is the first class I can say with all honesty that I truly do not believe a single person their whole company gives a flying kitten about. I would say they probably laugh at Engineer tears over being slapped in the face with this horrendous backpiece, but that would require they actually read this thread. Considering the last red response was months upon months ago… yea.

I’ve always kind of wondered if the goal was to phase out Engineers. Maybe they realized the class didn’t fit someone’s design vision, and if they ignore them long enough (randomly toss in a nerf or two along the way) that everyone will just class hop and go play something else.

I’m sorry to all the Engineers who are still around. It’s tough being unloved.

Mesmers felt the same way with their skills, damage and aoes aswell bugs until last patch. Maybe we engineers will be able to use backitems too – … one day

Xyonon.3987:

Mesmers felt the same way with their skills, damage and aoes aswell bugs until last patch. Maybe we engineers will be able to use backitems too – … one day

Their buglist was analogous to our own Turret buglist, which Anet’s been chipping away at for a few patches – just this last Feature Patch, they finally resolved Issue #1 on said list, which was that Turrets wouldn’t attack World Bosses.

What is the bloody point of all the nice back items when they got covered up by the ugly hobo sacks?
How difficult is it to give us Engineers the option to disable display of the hobo sacks?
Anet Dev probably don’t give a kitten , instead they are busy working on crap… I mean content that most of us never asked for or hates. Prove me wrong.

Back items just have to have priority over hobo sacks. That’s all.

Anet, instead of hiding our backpieces give us the option to hide our hobosack. You have your character model standardization now, so hobosacks shouldn’t matter.

Please don’t nerf my style and take away my tempered spinal blades. They were the only thing that made my hobosack look kitten.

The back item doesn’t clip with my hobosack when I use skills anymore, but I did get the clipping to happen again. I’m not 100% sure how I managed it, but I think it happened when I had my flamethrower kit equipped and refunded and respent my trait points. I haven’t bothered to experiment to see if this is reproducible, though.

If you hide and reactivate your back item while using a kit, it’s visible again. Until you swap kits … So in the end it’s hidden all the time unless you want to hide and show your back item all the time while in combat hahahahahah HAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHUAHDUASHDASDJDJKASLJKDlASJD

ANET FIX IT ALREADY!!! T_T

Heh. If my Engi absolutely must cart around some unspeakable horror from beyond the stars, Anet … at least replace the Hobosack with Cthulhu or Bubbles, k?

…and we are still plagued with these things…make them go away, the clown sack/hobosacks