Either way, there’s only so many things I could see the drones being classified as. The drones very well may be minion drones. Unless that thing was a part of the hammer.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
I hate to say it. But if you got minions. You know…You KNOW the spec will have to be terrible at everything it does or it will get turret engineered.
Or it will be balanced like every other minion skill and be much less effective than alternatives for obvious reasons. Can’t remember the last time I saw a minion master necro in any game mode. Spirit rangers are uncommon as it is, and I guarantee they’ll almost disappear in SPvP and probably WvW too once they become immobile.
Turrets aside, I really really really don’t want something as boring as minions for my engineer. I love the fast paced switching and utility of kits and I hope they bring something that can compete with or supplement that. Engineers would have a ton of cool skills if they were all balanced around kits as a baseline.
I hate to say it. But if you got minions. You know…You KNOW the spec will have to be terrible at everything it does or it will get turret engineered.
Or it will be balanced like every other minion skill and be much less effective than alternatives for obvious reasons. Can’t remember the last time I saw a minion master necro in any game mode. Spirit rangers are uncommon as it is, and I guarantee they’ll almost disappear in SPvP and probably WvW too once they become immobile.
Turrets aside, I really really really don’t want something as boring as minions for my engineer. I love the fast paced switching and utility of kits and I hope they bring something that can compete with or supplement that. Engineers would have a ton of cool skills if they were all balanced around kits as a baseline.
You can’t say they are balanced if they are practically unusable. Balance lies in the middle.
Could be a cool idea as long as we didn’t have to constantly summon them OR their respective toolbelt skills were worth using. Certainly seems like the most likely choice for the new elite spec considering the drones, but they probably won’t be quite as creative with it as you.
I hate to say it. But if you got minions. You know…You KNOW the spec will have to be terrible at everything it does or it will get turret engineered.
Or it will be balanced like every other minion skill and be much less effective than alternatives for obvious reasons. Can’t remember the last time I saw a minion master necro in any game mode. Spirit rangers are uncommon as it is, and I guarantee they’ll almost disappear in SPvP and probably WvW too once they become immobile.
Turrets aside, I really really really don’t want something as boring as minions for my engineer. I love the fast paced switching and utility of kits and I hope they bring something that can compete with or supplement that. Engineers would have a ton of cool skills if they were all balanced around kits as a baseline.
You can’t say they are balanced if they are practically unusable. Balance lies in the middle.
They are balanced to fall in line with Anet’s philosophy, which seems to lean towards non-minion/summon skills are stronger than minion skills due to their inherent skill cap. If the minions are somehow just as good as slotting in another kit, what’s the point of getting that kit if an almost completely AI minion can do just as well?
Minions? And then to turn a high skilled profession into a zombie spammer? Nty.
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They are balanced to fall in line with Anet’s philosophy, which seems to lean towards non-minion/summon skills are stronger than minion skills due to their inherent skill cap. If the minions are somehow just as good as slotting in another kit, what’s the point of getting that kit if an almost completely AI minion can do just as well?
Because they would do different things.
I mean, that’s how our utilities have been designed from the start. Else there would be no reason to use anything other than kits – why use a single skill when you can have five of them?
And that’s true for whatever they plan to put as new utilities. If they just did something a kit can do, there would be no competition – people would just use the kits.
(still, seeing how they managed the turrets, i would rather avoid seeing other minions – they would end up as useless as them)
I hate to say it. But if you got minions. You know…You KNOW the spec will have to be terrible at everything it does or it will get turret engineered.
Or it will be balanced like every other minion skill and be much less effective than alternatives for obvious reasons. Can’t remember the last time I saw a minion master necro in any game mode. Spirit rangers are uncommon as it is, and I guarantee they’ll almost disappear in SPvP and probably WvW too once they become immobile.
Turrets aside, I really really really don’t want something as boring as minions for my engineer. I love the fast paced switching and utility of kits and I hope they bring something that can compete with or supplement that. Engineers would have a ton of cool skills if they were all balanced around kits as a baseline.
You can’t say they are balanced if they are practically unusable. Balance lies in the middle.
They are balanced to fall in line with Anet’s philosophy, which seems to lean towards non-minion/summon skills are stronger than minion skills due to their inherent skill cap. If the minions are somehow just as good as slotting in another kit, what’s the point of getting that kit if an almost completely AI minion can do just as well?
Utility. The kit grants access to 5 skills.
You realise nobody slotted turrets in their bars over kits before the nerfs, outside of gimmick spvp builds that weren’t even that effective, right? Sure, there were the rare exceptions, like Net Turret, but that was used the same as a one-time stun, with a chance of sticking around and being useful.
And don’t pretend kits are this skill intensive. They are a weapon swap with a different keybind and no cooldown. Nor do summon minions necessarily have to be fire and forget.
There are countless games that did minions right, even if Anet failed. The problem has ever been the AI aspect of the skills. Skillful play is rewarded with less outplaying/counterplaying options; AI on the other hand is dumb.
Or it will be balanced like every other minion skill and be much less effective than alternatives for obvious reasons. Can’t remember the last time I saw a minion master necro in any game mode. Spirit rangers are uncommon as it is, and I guarantee they’ll almost disappear in SPvP and probably WvW too once they become immobile.
Why would they even do this? They’ve retroactively nerfed all of the AI builds in the game already; what would be the point of them introducing an elite spec that’s automatically inferior to everything else just for flavor?
I, for one, hope these are not AI controlled. You don’t need minions with auto-attacks. However, if these are little robotic minions and they make the elite spec useless, I’m gonna be pretty furious.
Minions? And then to turn a high skilled profession into a zombie spammer? Nty.
Lol, lots of irony in this statement.
Not everyone used turrets
Ziggs Ironeye – Engineer | Madame Le Blanc – Mesmer | Mentor (PvE) | EU
“Mentoring engineers / mesmers and showing you what you can do with your fantastic class!
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I like the idea of minions with the spec name mad scientist.
weak mobile turrets that have special AOE target tool belt commands
you could have the flying gun one, a healing one, a static reflective shield one that shocks with chance to stun, a rapid whirling one with a flail of some kind and an elite full on human style robot like scarlet’s watch work minions. this would fit in well lore wise since scarlett was an engi and she was a mad scientist with watch work minions now she gone we get control of the tech instead
make this happen anet I have hyped myself up now..
