How do you cycle skills?

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

I’m trying out engineer and decided I liked the idea of a 3-kit build since I enjoy playing ele and enjoy the complexity of having more than just 10 skills. So running Toolkit+Grenades+Elixir Gun in SPvP, what kit do you generally find yourself in or when do you switch? I find myself starting in grenades, toss all of them, then I really have no idea what I should be doing. And unfortunately, when I don’t know what I should be doing and there’s no attunement cds, I tend to just jump in and out of kits using whatever’s off cd. So to solve that I’ll ask a few questions.

1: Are they’re any skills that should not be used unless they’re needed? I.E. saved for a specific action/situation.

2: What, in general, is your cycle throughout the battle? Do you use all the cds in one kit then camp in another or do you combine specific skills from different kits?

3: Should I bother using the auto attack on grenades on non-downed people? I have trouble hitting with the full skill sometimes so unless I’m observing from outside the point I usually don’t land a majority of them.

4: Do certain kits lend themselves better to fighting against specific builds? If so, which ones. Just from experience, EG auto attack puts thieves on the defensive hardcore unless they’re stealth based.

And any other helpful tips you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted by: Vieteriukko.6075

Vieteriukko.6075

Backpack made a video that is good and answers most these questions (in youtube). It doesn’t have elixir gun but egun is situational : use stun break, condi cleanse, poison and weakness when needed.

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

Backpack made a video that is good and answers most these questions (in youtube). It doesn’t have elixir gun but egun is situational : use stun break, condi cleanse, poison and weakness when needed.

I just watched the video and that was very helpful, thanks for pointing me to it ^^

Just curious as it seemed to stick out to me, does he have Box of Nails set to autoattack? He always seems to cast it instantly when switching to toolkit or was that just like a super ingrained habit thing? Should I be using Box of Nails every chance I get?

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Posted by: Vieteriukko.6075

Vieteriukko.6075

Use nails when ever you benefit from them. Cooldown is short but no use to cast it if no enemies are around.

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Posted by: ukuni.8745

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1/2. it really depends, I know poison grenade will help with downed body pressure and cleaving but I also know that it will inhibit healing specs/warriors I like to save the blind grenade for defensive reasons, shrapnel grenade I allways try to use when it’s off CD it hits hard and the conditions are amazing and follow it up with a freeze grenade, assuming I land those 2 i should more then likely be able to drop a barrage with little to no problem and landing those 3 together is huge damage output with the right traits, as for the eg and tool kit aside from blasting your ht with acid bomb and magnet into prybar there really isn’t much else to using them, throw wrench is great for fight ranged/running away opponents as it does good dmg and cripples so you can get in close, something I like to do that not a lot of people I see doing is following up overcharged shot with the eg stun breaker since overcharged shot is a really long knock down activating your stun breaker gives you heaps of time to unleash heaps of damage but it does use up your only stun breaker and whilst it can be effective make sure you plan out how your going to use it and remember a lot of other people will probly use a stun breaker after your first overcharged shot.

3. depends on the enemy, most of the time I won’t use nades auto but things like mm necros and turret engineers can be quickly delt with from the aoe of nades, when your assaulting a point you can also more easily land them from range because you know your enemy’s intentions is to not let you decap and the range of nades can keep you at a safe distance and harass your enemy enough to give you a great advantage.

4.aside from bombkit making a mess of anything melee and specific kits filling roles in particular builds like ft in decap builds there isn’t much more to them aside from changing how you approach a fight.

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

Arantheal.7396

nades almost always
TK for #5 + #3 combos or #4 for running away.
EG for combo-blasting / healing / condi-reset on allies

and pistols/shield for #2 + #3 spamming, stomp-prevention and further combo blasts.
also #5 works nicely to interrupt 100 blades and other chained skills. Most hilarious when used on a blinking guardian that tries to GS burst you. Say hello to my nades.

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Posted by: oscuro.9720

oscuro.9720

I run a rabid Condi engi with two kits and elixir s. Bomb kit + tool kit is what I run mostly, switching in jades depending on the situation. I like to lead off with 2 skill on the pistol as it expires any aegis/blind that has been previously applied, as well as getting a nice poison on the enemy to dampen regen or healing. Usually I’ll get a burn and torment proc from that. Then I use the 3 skill for some average confusion and blind for whatever lead skill they use.
Where I go from there is dependent on the class. I’m going to use guardian and ranger as my two samples as they exemplify the ranged and melee aspects of the game.
Guardian: after getting the static shot off, they will usually use their greatsword leap and go into a combo. I usually switch to TK to drop caltrops and smack them with pry at as they leap in so their the confusion wrecks their face off while they spam skills. I’ve found that if I continue to dodge, I can maintain +75% health in any melee combo. After TK, I drop my blind bomb then the fire and confusion bombs. This should get some nice conditions on them. Kite around the burn/blind field you have created. By this time the poison shot and static shot on the pistol should be recharged. Blow through those then drop the TK caltrops and pull them to get cc. In this break, I usually use my heal as I am around 75% health and like to remain as high as possible. That rotation should kill them.

Ranger: The range they have is annoying. Depending on the situation, utilize the opening pistol rotation, the be ready for a rapid fire. The shield 4 skill is good for countering that and usually gets some decent burn/torment procs off of crits. They may use their knockback in themselves and you will have to use shield 5 to block the rapid fire after that. It will give a nice stun. In this stun, you can rotate straight into TK rotation. You use the pull into the prybar then drop caltrops. Next you use the glue bomb to root the ranger then spam all your bomb before he tries to get away. Next, use all of the pistol skills and they should be dead. I almost always win against rangers without dropping below 90%.
Of course, these rotations need to be modified per build per profession, but I encounter zerk Longbow Rangers and whatever the guardian meta build is. Last note: THIEVES! Cc+bombs=EASY WIN!!!

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Posted by: bethekey.8314

bethekey.8314

Anyone who says there is a set pattern for what you should do in a certain case is wrong. Learn the skills and rotate through them properly depending on the situation.

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

Arantheal.7396

“there is a set pattern for what you should do in a certain case”
“Learn the skills and rotate through them properly depending on the situation.”

Can you tell me what the difference between these two sentences is?
Because for me it really does sound that you disagree with yourself instantly in the next sentence…

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Very Carefully.

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Posted by: vincecontix.1264

vincecontix.1264

Anyone who says there is a set pattern for what you should do in a certain case is wrong. Learn the skills and rotate through them properly depending on the situation.

Pretty much this, though there a cycle to go through when you are freely casting and trying to maximize DPs.

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Posted by: JEFFARR.8163

JEFFARR.8163

Step1
Roll rabid condi nades/bombs
Step 2equip incen power
Step 3 play defensive until they get in you’re face
Step 4 ignore steps1-3