Guild Wars 2

So I have decided to get back into playing engineer again, but after the grenade nerf, I wanted to try a new build. I have seen many posts here about the viability of P/P elixir builds that are pretty decent for support and dps in PvE when might stacking, but I actually can’t find a good forum post that explains how people are maintaining those might stacks. Currently I just use all elixirs and HGH for 14 stacks of might initially which later recedes to about 7-9 during longer fights. Am I doing this right or is there something I am missing?

You aren’t doing anything wrong, actually. However, stacking might is more efficient with a flamethrower build, because with Juggernaut trait you get 7 might stacks just by keeping FT out. With the elixirs (don’t forget to toss them!) you can get a greater amount of stacks.

If you want to take this strategy to the max, you can use 3 of the runes that grant +20% might duration each when you have two of them. This gives +60% might duration in total. With food that also increases duration you can get 25 stacks by yourself.

Now, if you want to offer might for the group, I’ve once read that Rune of Altruism is very good with Medikit. It used to trigger whenever you equiped the kit (baring cooldown). It might be worth a look.

Yea, medkit works if you don’t wanna go the 30 alchemy route.

Basically you need 2xRune of Altruism, the sigil that gives might for using a heal skill and Enhanced Performance in the Explosives tree. Simply activating the medkit will trigger all the effects and in a lot of situations you’ll do that for perma runspeed anyway.

How many stacks you can keep up depends on the rest of your build and equipment, imo this is something you’d do if you use an Explosives build anyway rather than something you’d go for specifically to get the might stacking.

Edit: Only the Rune of Altruism effect will give might to your group though, the others are self only.

Exactly what i needed to know. Thanks for the quick answer man. Also are there specific elixirs I should be using, and should i spam them all immediately after they become available?

The elixirs you use depend on your focus. PvE, PvP, WoW, that all makes a difference. I myself do only PvE, so my elixirs are H (mandatory unless you go the Rune of Altruism route, at least from my opinion), B (I love that one, since it gives Might by itself), U (quickness helps stacking conditions at peak might stacks) and R (sometimes stun means death and the toss skill is awesome in dungeons). But once again, depends on your playstyle. I suggest that you try them all and see how it goes for you.

As for spamming them, I usually use B and U, with toss of H, B and U right before a fight. When they become avaible I cast them again. But I keep H and R in case of emergencies, as I do with toss R.If the fight goes smoothly, I fit these in the spam rotation for extra Might. With Alchemy at 30 and Fast Acting Elixirs, the boons last longer and cooldowns last less, so it’s not that much of an issue.

I’m glad I could help. Letme know if you want any other opinion

Also do you guys think it is more effective to use the flame thrower or just stick with using pistols? I seem to hit extremely low base damage with the pistols (200) with rampager gear but Its hard to tell if the added condition damage makes up for this. So far it seems like I can output more damage with this build using the FT

Disclaimer; this is entirely from an sPvP standpoint
I use might stacking most out of any other build, IMO using FT combined with the rifle allows you to pull off very solid damage.
Here’s my build:
http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2446-alchenaut
At any given moment, assuming I’m consistently switching between FT and Rifle and using my elixirs, both for their own usage and to remove conditions (usually use the toolbelt skills for that) I average around 20 stacks of might or so, but it fluctuates due to the random nature of combat. Hope this helps!

Choops.3710:

Disclaimer; this is entirely from an sPvP standpoint
I use might stacking most out of any other build, IMO using FT combined with the rifle allows you to pull off very solid damage.
Here’s my build:
http://www.gw2db.com/skill-builds/2446-alchenaut
At any given moment, assuming I’m consistently switching between FT and Rifle and using my elixirs, both for their own usage and to remove conditions (usually use the toolbelt skills for that) I average around 20 stacks of might or so, but it fluctuates due to the random nature of combat. Hope this helps!

Im really interested in your build, I came up with a similar idea, but I dont usually play PVP, just PVE. So, if I can ask for your advice:

Would you change something of the build for PVE?

Which set of armor would you use?

Thanks in advance

I’m not going to lie, I have absolutely zero experience with PvE above level 59, because that is legitimately as far as I made it, lol. So hopefully one of the more experienced PvE engi’s can hop in and put in their 2 cents. Off the top of my head, I’m not sure how bad PvE conditions get, but my first thing to go would probably be switching out Formula 409 with Self Regulating Defenses, which I wish I could squeeze into my build so bad, but unfortunately just can’t bring myself to do. Maybe even switch out the FT skills CD trait to something else as well, as the only reason I started using it was the shortened knockback and blind was infinitely useful to me in node capping. I apologize again for my lack of PvE experience, but I’ve been playing since pre-release and spent all my time in the Mists tweaking different builds instead of getting my poor Asura Engi through the ranks in the Priory. The world is doomed by a dragon because I’m too busy fighting other people

I was also looking into possibilities to stack some might but since I dislike most elixiers and kind of love SD and found toolbelt elixier skills have (in my opinion) too long CD to use them with SD I came up with this:
I use superior sigil of battle and Enhanced Performance with Might Duration Rune (and maybe soon 2x rune of altruism)
It´s a lazy way of stacking might, sicne you only have to switch to medkit every 10 seconds.
I still have to try this with Juggernaut… :o

Cero.5132:

I was also looking into possibilities to stack some might but since I dislike most elixiers and kind of love SD and found toolbelt elixier skills have (in my opinion) too long CD to use them with SD I came up with this:
I use superior sigil of strength and Enhanced Performance with Might Duration Rune (and maybe soon 2x rune of altruism)
It´s a lazy way of stacking might, sicne you only have to switch to medkit every 10 seconds.
I still have to try this with Juggernaut… :o

This sounds really interesting. Let us know how it turns out!

Well, I´m trying right now but…. since I´m kinda new to engi and hit 80 only a few days ago I easily get confused with my skills :P
With juggernaut and enhanced performance (2runes of monk, 2xhoelbrak, 2x Pirate…. yes I´m that broke) I can easily maintain 15 stacks might out of combat.
So in longterm combat it´s likely to have something …. 20+ might? but as I said, I´m still unexperienced AND bad in maths so I´ll have to try o.o

But it´s amazing that it still works with SD so splendidly…

HGH is a two-edged blade, as you start wanting to use the elixir more for the double-might than for the tactical use of the Elixir. You pop your defensive elixir just for the extra 35 damage, then a few seconds later realize that you now need it.

The best two Elixirs to use for this are U and B, as they are already offense based.

If you are using the runes to extend Might duration, a Sigil of Strength works well if you use FT often enough. With a high enough crit (about 35-40%) FT allows you to get crits multiple times a second, which increases the use of this Sigil.

There’s also the foods Ghost Pepper Popper and Roasted Artichoke, which (during the day) gives you a 40/36% chance of Might (5 sec) on crit, or (during the night) gives the opponent Chill (1 sec).

one of my builds: http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcMM9cz0MoRLMMoRnM0x0xaVRqMaqo
combined with 2x hoelbrak, 2x fire, 2x strength runes i have 10 stacks of might permanently with flamethrower out. i can reach 25 stacks without any help by spamming elixirs. i’m using a mix of soldier and berserker armor with berserker weapons and accessories. sigil of blood and omnomberry pie makes me extremely tanky.

ellesee.8297:

one of my builds: http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcMM9cz0MoRLMMoRnM0x0xaVRqMaqo
combined with 2x hoelbrak, 2x fire, 2x strength runes i have 10 stacks of might permanently with flamethrower out. i can reach 25 stacks without any help by spamming elixirs. i’m using a mix of soldier and berserker armor with berserker weapons and accessories. sigil of blood and omnomberry pie makes me extremely tanky.

Hehe, we pretty much use the same build, except for 2 different trait choices and an elixir. You don’t find yourself vulnerable without a stun breaker? This is like a more offensive version of mine, curious how it plays!

20 points into explosives for 3 stacks of might on heal, the sigil that gives might on weapon swap (or crit would stack faster I suppose, and take less microing.. but you’ll be doing it anyway so whatever), 2 runes of altruism, 2 runes of might, 2 runes of hoelbrak, 30 points into alchemy. I’m not mentioning juggernaut ‘cause it’s garbage. Maybe use Elixir B for 4-5 more stacks of might (3 from chugging with HGH if you choose to take it, 1-2 from the toss).

Kamahl.3621:

20 points into explosives for 3 stacks of might on heal, the sigil that gives might on weapon swap (or crit would stack faster I suppose, and take less microing.. but you’ll be doing it anyway so whatever), 2 runes of altruism, 2 runes of might, 2 runes of hoelbrak, 30 points into alchemy. I’m not mentioning juggernaut ‘cause it’s garbage. Maybe use Elixir B for 4-5 more stacks of might (3 from chugging with HGH if you choose to take it, 1-2 from the toss).

Juggernaut is useful for sPvP, as it allows me to maintain at least 10 stacks of might to start off a fight and on the way to a node.