Guild Wars 2

It really intrests me how can engi (it was only 1 engi I have sawn) can burst down 25k health trooh 2600 armor in 2 sec? It must be really class cannon build but it intrests me excactly how

I think there is one obscene combo where you place down Big old Bomb, and then use Elixir X. Pray to sweet jesus you get Rampaging Brute, and BoB will hit for obscene amounts of damage because it scales with the greatly boosted Power from the Engineer in Rampaging Brute.

Thats the only thing i know that could possibly, maybe, do that much damage in 1 single hit.

Terrahero.9358:

I think there is one obscene combo where you place down Big old Bomb, and then use Elixir X. Pray to sweet jesus you get Rampaging Brute, and BoB will hit for obscene amounts of damage because it scales with the greatly boosted Power from the Engineer in Rampaging Brute.

Thats the only thing i know that could possibly, maybe, do that much damage in 1 single hit.

It is. Unless you get that stack of might AND the enemy stays in that position, it’s not gonna happen

Raestloz.7134:

Terrahero.9358:

I think there is one obscene combo where you place down Big old Bomb, and then use Elixir X. Pray to sweet jesus you get Rampaging Brute, and BoB will hit for obscene amounts of damage because it scales with the greatly boosted Power from the Engineer in Rampaging Brute.

Thats the only thing i know that could possibly, maybe, do that much damage in 1 single hit.

It is. Unless you get that stack of might AND the enemy stays in that position, it’s not gonna happen

It is extremely situational and people who get hit by it really only have themselves to blame. But its a thing.

Altough in WvW you’re much more likely to get one-shotted because you got pulled or knocked down a steep cliff and die from fall damage.

Terrahero.9358:

Raestloz.7134:

Terrahero.9358:

I think there is one obscene combo where you place down Big old Bomb, and then use Elixir X. Pray to sweet jesus you get Rampaging Brute, and BoB will hit for obscene amounts of damage because it scales with the greatly boosted Power from the Engineer in Rampaging Brute.

Thats the only thing i know that could possibly, maybe, do that much damage in 1 single hit.

It is. Unless you get that stack of might AND the enemy stays in that position, it’s not gonna happen

It is extremely situational and people who get hit by it really only have themselves to blame. But its a thing.

Altough in WvW you’re much more likely to get one-shotted because you got pulled or knocked down a steep cliff and die from fall damage.

It’s not only situational, there’s 50% chance you’ll turn into a Tornado instead and all that effort will be for nothing.

Engi can deal some good dps, but it can’t deal a huge burst

Hes probably think of the old static discharge build

First of all these are some massive stats to boat i guess you are running soldiers ammy?

Honestly i dont think that any engi build can deal that much damage vs that much armor instantly. I think you should have just checked your combat log to see what really did the damage – its usually the easiest way – maybe there was someone you didnt see ( backstab/stealth builds with teleport pretty popular again atm as i see things)

@ power burst builds.. the big ol bomb + ulti elixir was already mentioned
SD can be annoying if you cant dodge the triple SD and you have 1 other person nearby which bounces the SD off again but its really no THAT strong damage wise and its terrible in tourneys anyway

the highest possible burst i can see might be with some might stacking + big ole bomb dropped then hit greade barrage dead center -> drop to rifle and jump shot in melee range + big ole bomb explodes (or pry bar somewhere)

maybe if he has built for vulnerability somewhere along the way but in the end you cant really get decent vulnerability stacks without losing dmg somewhere else

but even if you max out damage and somehow manage to hit all those at once its not really instant and its not going to hit for a combined 27K hp vs 2.6+K armor even if youre lucky with crits

Conan.8046:

Hes probably think of the old static discharge build

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bFKYaD3lrM

yea it looks something he did beacose he used raifle and supplys

RaynStargaze.6510:

First of all these are some massive stats to boat i guess you are running soldiers ammy?

Honestly i dont think that any engi build can deal that much damage vs that much armor instantly. I think you should have just checked your combat log to see what really did the damage – its usually the easiest way – maybe there was someone you didnt see ( backstab/stealth builds with teleport pretty popular again atm as i see things)

@ power burst builds.. the big ol bomb + ulti elixir was already mentioned
SD can be annoying if you cant dodge the triple SD and you have 1 other person nearby which bounces the SD off again but its really no THAT strong damage wise and its terrible in tourneys anyway

the highest possible burst i can see might be with some might stacking + big ole bomb dropped then hit greade barrage dead center -> drop to rifle and jump shot in melee range + big ole bomb explodes (or pry bar somewhere)

maybe if he has built for vulnerability somewhere along the way but in the end you cant really get decent vulnerability stacks without losing dmg somewhere else

but even if you max out damage and somehow manage to hit all those at once its not really instant and its not going to hit for a combined 27K hp vs 2.6+K armor even if youre lucky with crits

nop it was only me and hem

The current Engi 1 shot build is something like

30/x/x/x/30. Med kit, Nade kit, Tool kit, Rifle turret, Supply drop

The main burst combo is Magnet —> Grenade Barrage --> SD burst.

He prob chained that into Supply Crate + Rifl #5 if I were to guess. That should kill most people who aren’t bunker.

My money on a full ascended SD build , there is no defense to such build if its maxed.
2600 armor for one of those is child’s play

What is the standard S/D build these days anyway? Is is full zerkers with rifle, medkit,tool, ram and rifle turret?

Riojin.2649:

What is the standard S/D build these days anyway? Is is full zerkers with rifle, medkit,tool, ram and rifle turret?

I posted the one shot/SD setup above…at least what is run in PVP lately.

Rifle, Med kit, Nade kit, tool kit, rifle turret.

Pull into grenade barrage + rifle turret TB is the big burst.

Lol whats “run” in all instances lately is the lackluster PBR , rocket turret , rocket boots , and i even seen a guy running a random Elix B in his SD build lmao ….seems no one knows how to properly set one up let alone utilize it…such a sad sight to see and quite tiresome.

Most commonly posted SD build since the 6/25 patch I’ve seen is with ToolKit, PBR, Rifle Turret and usually rifle. Gives the shortest CDs for SD and allows for decent mobility and utility. WHen waiting for SD skills to recharge you’ve got the always handy ToolKit to use, plus control and ranged auto from rifle.

If you’re looking for a 1-shot SD build then you’ll want the hardest hitting toolbelt skills, but they will come with long CDs.

The standard SD build that I made a video of a while ago is still the strongest with the lowest cooldown. Also, it’s better than the other because you can do half the burst WHILE blocking. 0/30/0/10/30. HT, TK, Rifle turret, Goggles

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

Lol whats “run” in all instances lately is the lackluster PBR , rocket turret , rocket boots , and i even seen a guy running a random Elix B in his SD build lmao ….seems no one knows how to properly set one up let alone utilize it…such a sad sight to see and quite tiresome.

Not all of us are building for the LOLPWNZDPS!!1!

Some of us are playing for fun, and having some versatility instead of slotting a utility that you basically never use (the rifle turret) we would rather have the knockback, the range, or combat movement, etc.

If you find it tiresome that others don’t play the way you want, then don’t look at their builds.

lunyboy.8672:

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

Lol whats “run” in all instances lately is the lackluster PBR , rocket turret , rocket boots , and i even seen a guy running a random Elix B in his SD build lmao ….seems no one knows how to properly set one up let alone utilize it…such a sad sight to see and quite tiresome.

Not all of us are building for the LOLPWNZDPS!!1!

Some of us are playing for fun, and having some versatility instead of slotting a utility that you basically never use (the rifle turret) we would rather have the knockback, the range, or combat movement, etc.

If you find it tiresome that others don’t play the way you want, then don’t look at their builds.

The point of Static Discharge is to increase DPS. The trait literally only serves the purpose of doing more damage. The metagame isn’t going to change because you have a different playstyle. If you are not using the shortest possible CD’s or the hardest hitting tool belt skills you aren’t built for SD. I don’t presume to know what your playstyle is or is not, but slotting an Elixir and also slotting Static Discharge is just a poor decision (with one exception for the Static Discharge + Acidic Elixirs “boon hater” build 10/0/10/20/30).

Everyone is free to play as they like, but keep in mind “Bad” is a playstyle few respect.

Obscure One.4357:

lunyboy.8672:

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

Lol whats “run” in all instances lately is the lackluster PBR , rocket turret , rocket boots , and i even seen a guy running a random Elix B in his SD build lmao ….seems no one knows how to properly set one up let alone utilize it…such a sad sight to see and quite tiresome.

Not all of us are building for the LOLPWNZDPS!!1!

Some of us are playing for fun, and having some versatility instead of slotting a utility that you basically never use (the rifle turret) we would rather have the knockback, the range, or combat movement, etc.

If you find it tiresome that others don’t play the way you want, then don’t look at their builds.

The point of Static Discharge is to increase DPS. The trait literally only serves the purpose of doing more damage. The metagame isn’t going to change because you have a different playstyle. If you are not using the shortest possible CD’s or the hardest hitting tool belt skills you aren’t built for SD. I don’t presume to know what your playstyle is or is not, but slotting an Elixir and also slotting Static Discharge is just a poor decision (with one exception for the Static Discharge + Acidic Elixirs “boon hater” build 10/0/10/20/30).

Everyone is free to play as they like, but keep in mind “Bad” is a playstyle few respect.

+1 (Couldnt of said it better myself) No reason for me to respond.

I’ve played since BWE2 and there’s nothing that the engi can absolutely 100% do over and over again to burst anything. This class needs to be given the traits that other classes have for burst damage builds so it can 1 and 2 shot enemies and once that’s done it might be closer to being taken out of it’s beta stage.

It’s way too dependant on condition damage which is also a broken mechanic in the game.

tigirius.9014:

I’ve played since BWE2 and there’s nothing that the engi can absolutely 100% do over and over again to burst anything.
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Yeah makes me wonder did you make a typo there? I use the same build in s/tpvp lol and people NEVER expect an Engie to instagibb them , they always ask wtf was that? SD baby

You can get +65% crit damage between traits, runes (Rage), and amulet (Valk or Zerker). Then equip Sigil of Intelligence and Sigil of Fire. Get into combat, swap to Flamethrower and use Flame Blast>Detonate. I’ve hit for a total of 6.5K between the hit, detonate, and Sigil of Fire proc. Very gimmicky and the timing is a pain in the kitten to get right, but it’s fun when it works.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQJAqel0pyanuy2F17IxoHde0ZGki6eXRKqcjB-ToAA0CvIUSpkTJjSSlsKNsYyB

Med Kit #5, Elixir B, and Utility Goggles give you a lot of Fury up time for more crits, and the extra +5% crit dmg from Runes of Rage (this is how you get to +65% crit dmg).

It’s a total troll build, but good for laughs.

I toyed around with the max damage SD PVE build in some hotjoin…so funny.

That’s where you go 10/30/0/0/30 and take burn on crit + sitting duck + mod ammunition for max +% damage modifier on the target.

I’ve one shot a few people – from full HP.

Mine field is some serious burst and you can detonate the mines the very instant they go out making it fairly reliable.

google.3709:

Engineers acrually have 2 builds that can actually 1 shot people, pretty hilarious how now one else has fugue out… considering it’s made off skills that haven’t been buffed since launch

google.3709:

google.3709:

Engineers acrually have 2 builds that can actually 1 shot people, pretty hilarious how now one else has fugue out… considering it’s made off skills that haven’t been buffed since launch

Yep…im messing with an old SD build that is literally unchanged from launch and I 1shot thieves and eles a lot. Other professions too if squishy and not 100% HP. With the right CC combos you can sort of “one shot” more too.

BTW my fellow Engineers. Let me tell you – a thief jumping on you only for you to turn around and 1shot them in the face is pretty kitten satisfying.

I’ve been doing some tournies with the build too and even though my condis removal sucks and I’m full glass cannon….its been kicking kitten . I just roam, come into a point and one shot whoever isn’t full HP then carry on.

So after months of playing ‘nades & FT with pistol, I broke down and made an SD/rifle build. Holy crap!! Wandered around with this while working on 100% map and I was crushing things. Why did I wait so long? It always seemed gimmicky to me but it’s got some great tools.

My only problem is that it’s not great against groups (when compared to my trusty FT or ‘nades) so I’m constantly jumping around and using TK’s shield. I got TK, Goggles, & Rifle Turret. I like goggles cuz it’s fury for me & 10x vuln for target to start the spike. Any other tips? Should I be attacking with TK at close range and Rifle from afar?

Gonna take this into PvP very soon.

Seras.5702:

My only problem is that it’s not great against groups (when compared to my trusty FT or ’nades)

I respectfully disagree.

If you slot personal battering ram and trait into power wrench you are a crippling machine that hits like a truck. Plus you have better range with static discharge than you do with FT so you can kite.

MrSilver.5269:

Seras.5702:

My only problem is that it’s not great against groups (when compared to my trusty FT or ’nades)

I respectfully disagree.

If you slot personal battering ram and trait into power wrench you are a crippling machine that hits like a truck. Plus you have better range with static discharge than you do with FT so you can kite.

Let me clarify: I am used to dealing aoe damage with FT and grenades, thereby dealing with groups at one time, knocking back & blinding as needed. Now however, I’m dealing single target damage. I have to learn how to deal with one foe at a time. SD/rifle offers me much greater distance and I’m learning the ins & outs of rifle and its mobility. It always seemed clumsy to me, which is why I’ve been a pistol guy since day 1.

I have traited into power wrench and find that’s a good up close n’ dirty weapon when I get a few guys on top of me, cleaving em and gearshield helps survivability.

Never liked PBR, but maybe I’ll look into it. Right now I just love goggles and their ability to give me fury & 10x vuln to my target. Great for the SD spike imo but offers little in the way of control. I’m used to always having P/S & EG so I had aoe knockbacks and EG’s cripple & its escape. New build = new mechanics = figuring it all out.

Seras.5702:

So after months of playing ‘nades & FT with pistol, I broke down and made an SD/rifle build. Holy crap!! Wandered around with this while working on 100% map and I was crushing things. Why did I wait so long? It always seemed gimmicky to me but it’s got some great tools.

My only problem is that it’s not great against groups (when compared to my trusty FT or ‘nades) so I’m constantly jumping around and using TK’s shield. I got TK, Goggles, & Rifle Turret. I like goggles cuz it’s fury for me & 10x vuln for target to start the spike. Any other tips? Should I be attacking with TK at close range and Rifle from afar?

Gonna take this into PvP very soon.

Hey there, I can’t help you out with PVE advice much but I can with PVP.

Tool kit melee is very seldom used…most of the time you will be bursting with toolbelts, using control and burst skills on the rifle or doing something like a magnet into prybar.

However, it is important to always remember you have the tool kit melee option. There are a few builds/professions that will throw up reflects. This is a perfect time for a magnet into pry bar and even more melee hits if the person is say using a reflect shield rather than a reflect wall.

The melee chain on the TK hits pretty kitten hard too, so you’re not even kitten on damage when you’re forced to whip it out and smack someone in the knees with it. (we are all asura right? lol)

The words that get censored on this forum never cease to baffle my mind. Is this preschool class?

Yup, asura here. Kneecapping all times.

I too am shocked at some of the censored words. I see “that-it’s” with a kitten in the middle due to i’m guessing a word that refers to a woman’s upper torso area…but there’s a space in between T & I. Also, G-to-the-IMPED is censored, but I can’t for the life of me figure out why.

Seras.5702:

Yup, asura here. Kneecapping all times.

I too am shocked at some of the censored words. I see “that-it’s” with a kitten in the middle due to i’m guessing a word that refers to a woman’s upper torso area…but there’s a space in between T & I. Also, G-to-the-IMPED is censored, but I can’t for the life of me figure out why.

I tried to read what you wrote here but it seems you speaking in code?

Could anybody link a skilldesceiption for the sd builds you are talking about? I just came back to the game and this sounds pretty funny, hence i am wondering what you are talking about
Thanks in anticipation!

Finlay.7253:

Could anybody link a skilldesceiption for the sd builds you are talking about? I just came back to the game and this sounds pretty funny, hence i am wondering what you are talking about
Thanks in anticipation!

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Static_Discharge

And this is still achievable with the new patch? Looks like a lot of fun

Surprise shot has been buffed some more..

lol you just had to go there… R.I.P 100Nades