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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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Hi Folks

Help me with a build to use on dungeons and other to fractals?

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

6/6/0/0/2, aim 63% crit chance so assassin armor+ berserker trinkets or 2 assassin trinkets and 3 assassin armor, rest is berserker. Rifle usually, switch to p/s for extra might and a block for difficult content.

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Posted by: zaced.7948

zaced.7948

depends on what your team lacks.
might stacking: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdIQFAUlUUpmq9ZxyKseNSbBNy3EGQPhR02PugAA-TxBBABYp8DgLAg5PAga2fIPdAVq+zZKBBA-e

vulnerability: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdIQFAUlUUpmqlYxPLseNSbBNq3A6JMi2+5FEgjC-TxBBABYp8DgLAg5PAga2fIPdAVq+zZKBBA-e#

rotate skills according to dungeons (elixir u for reflect, stealth stacking, etc) and make sure to always face the enemy when blasting turrets in melee range because sd will only then hit.

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Posted by: GreenRipper.6432

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FT is not good for dungeon?

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

ft is good for its number 2 off cooldown and the extra fire field when playing with a lh ele. You shouldn’t use the auto attack, never.

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Posted by: DesertRose.2031

DesertRose.2031

Video for one variation of the current meta build:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYWpstTq528#t=75

Use Grenade Kit as your main weapon if your party lacks Vulnerability, use Bomb Kit as your main weapon otherwise.
Flamethrower is useful for its high-damaging blast finisher (Flamethrower #2) and its long lasting fire field (Flamethrower #4); just never use Flamethrower #1.

For a more detailed analysis of the Flamethrower see here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Camping-flamethrower-feels-wrong/first#post4433767

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

my fractals set is full zerk with strength runes, battle/energy sigil, rifle

i always leave 6 in explosives w/ grenadier and explosive powder. i flip between shrapnel/forceful explosives/empowering adrenaline depending on the situation.

i flip between 66002 and 64400 depending on if power shoes is better than speedy kits (66002 = meta traits, occasionally rifled barrels instead of hair trigger. 64400 = rifle mod + hair trigger, powershoes + energized armor). where do i want power shoes? swamp, running the orb. cliffside, carrying the hammer.

finally, if my party seems to struggle with certain bossfights (mai, molten duo, grawl boss), i switch over to 60440 (taking S@25% and backpack regen in alchemy) so i can survive a little better, because if go down less then my party doesnt need to rez me.

the utilities i use are nades (always), bombs (most of the time), rocket boots (almost always), and toolkit (sometimes). i swap bombs out for toolkit when its hard to stay in melee (certain bosses) or when i need pull. i only ditch rocket boots in molten fractal boss, and then i use bomb/tk/nades (push/pull protectors, block, have heavy dps, can sacrifice mobility and make up for it by knowing the fight). to tie it in to trait choices, when bomb kit is on my bar i use forceful explosives, when it isnt i use shrapnel (and at dredge boss i use empowering adrenaline).

i pug 40s and 50s regularly (now that i have ar, i didnt care for a year). energy sigil really helps in 49s. i havent had anyone tell me im bad, which may or may not be indicative of how useful i am, idk.

i nearly soloed lvl 19 mai trin yesterday =)

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

Xyonon.3987

Greetings everyone! Finally can answer too here

Energized armor grants you only 75 power and since you are loosing 100 ferocity I’d not suggest it. You also loose a high amount of damage from Firearms AND 100 precision. So – traiting in inventions is a total waste of trait points.

Allways go for 6/6/0/0/2 if you want damage. If you know what you are doing you can stay on that. Just swap utilities rather than traits to adapt the situation. However if you need vigor, go for 6/6/0/2/0 and forget about rifle mod and take swiftness on crit for a perma vigor uptime.

As an engineer you want full zerker or kitten equip + strength runes. Sigils depend on your allies. If you have 25 stacks might: force > battle, otherwise vice versa. In my case I take both since I solo a lot and 9 stacks free might are great! If you have troubles with blocking and doding attacks, you sure can use energy too.

The most important advice I can give you: Don’t stay on your utilities, swap them and adapt. Also do so with your weapon. Sure rifle has some burst, but the shield and pistol 3 both are very defensive and bring great utility. For example Mai Trin, a rifle is a no go.

Here my meta build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdIQFAUlUUpEr9ZxdLseNSbBNqwA6TMi2+5FEgjC-TxRBABXp8rjLIAN7PgnOCAeQAUq+jZKBJFAMTAA-e

PS: whoever used sitting duck in his build – it has a 5 sec cd and therefore does not work with aoe very well. It sux!

Greetings, Ziggy! Wruahh whooo!!!

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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Energized armor grants you only 75 power and since you are loosing 100 ferocity I’d not suggest it. You also loose a high amount of damage from Firearms AND 100 precision. So – traiting in inventions is a total waste of trait points.

your casual dismissal of my experiences is unjustified.

go pug some 40-50 fractals. until you get a party where no one picks up the cliffside hammer cuz everyone has always partied with someone else who takes it.

once youre there, try out power shoes instead of speedy kits and watch how much easier it is when you pick up the hammer (because you ARE forced to pick it up since no one else wants to). thats #puglife dude, just get thru the run while your allies kitten but listen reasonably well.

anyways, being situationally adaptive is precisely what i do. i havent taken the steps to go find some random dungeoning guild that will wait for me to do a fractal or 3 most days, so pugging high levels is my recourse. and it is viable, because the AR gate prevents the inexperienced baddies we all love to hate so much from even glancing at that lfg section. everyone who does those runs and takes minimum agony damage has done each fractal like 25+ times. they havent necessarily carried them, which is a position engi can fill almost every time. and sometimes when you have to hard carry (by soloing a boss, carrying the hammer, etc) merely surviving and sustaining is enough, and thats where thse alternate traits come in.

if youre running with a premade where each job is already taken care of in each fractal, then yes of course, run meta dungeon spec. but stop calling inventions pure trash when pieces of it have very good niches. its getting old.

on the other hand, out of all the normal dungeons… i think only maybe aetherpath has real use for power shoes. the older dungeons are almost all straightforward stack and spanks, with occasional little puzzles that are all short enough or confined enough that trait changes arent worth the effort.

(one of the things interesting about fractals is the rewards. people kitten and moan about them sucking, but its the only real set of prestige weapons that hasnt been diluted by alternate acquisition methods, and the ~10% chance of a pink chest is an average of like 10g in net worth per run, which really isnt all that much less than the net worth you accrue by running however many dungeon paths in the same amount of time. but you have to be willing to work with rnjesus and not count certain things as a total loss.)

anyways… i just think its silly of you to say something like inventions is a waste when i use it to great effect. like i said, fellow pugs dont call me trash to my face, not that that means they dont think it, not that that means guildies arent lulzing in guild chat… but i seem to do pretty good in fractals and only about 10% of my pug runs end with people thinking “phew.. that was kittening terribad,” which i know i cant say for most of the runs i pug in regular dungeons… which are like 10x easier.

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Posted by: zaced.7948

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PS: whoever used sitting duck in his build – it has a 5 sec cd and therefore does not work with aoe very well. It sux!

while playing bomb it applies 5 extra vuln from bomb#5 and rifle#2. for faster vuln stacking on bosses. just a filler, though.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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Hey guys. Inventions line is not good. Never good.
Sitting duck lol! Terrible! What you replace? Rifle mod? Hair trigger? Precise sights? Infused precision?
Using any bomb except #1 is a huge dps loss.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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Hey guys. Inventions line is not good. Never good.
Sitting duck lol! Terrible! What you replace? Rifle mod? Hair trigger? Precise sights? Infused precision?
Using any bomb except #1 is a huge dps loss.

so are you one of those people who makes an lfg like “80 heavy zerk only ping gear or kick” and follows through?

personally id think you always spam bomb 2 on cd. id think you use bomb 4 every time you stack to kill trash. but no… that has to be wrong cuz you said so. lets all just camp bomb kit spamming 1 cuz everything else is a dps loss.

…why would you even write this

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Posted by: Arantheal.7396

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Hey guys. Inventions line is not good. Never good.
Sitting duck lol! Terrible! What you replace? Rifle mod? Hair trigger? Precise sights? Infused precision?
Using any bomb except #1 is a huge dps loss.

so are you one of those people who makes an lfg like “80 heavy zerk only ping gear or kick” and follows through?

personally id think you always spam bomb 2 on cd. id think you use bomb 4 every time you stack to kill trash. but no… that has to be wrong cuz you said so. lets all just camp bomb kit spamming 1 cuz everything else is a dps loss.

…why would you even write this

wannabe elitists.
They try to min-max to a point where they break the class and its purpose entirely^^

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Posted by: GiannisPapapa.4961

GiannisPapapa.4961

It’s cute to see people who fail to comprehend sarcasm.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

It’s cute to see people who fail to comprehend sarcasm.

its cute to see people who expect everyone to correctly interpret nonexistent cues

wait no
its just ridiculous

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Posted by: GiannisPapapa.4961

GiannisPapapa.4961

No, what’s truly ridiculous is considering a lvl19 mai trin solo an achievement
No wait,
Nearly a solo*.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

That burn hurts so much, did you have incendiary powder?

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Posted by: GiannisPapapa.4961

GiannisPapapa.4961

No, apparently he took it out to use energized armour.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

Hey guys. Inventions line is not good. Never good.
Sitting duck lol! Terrible! What you replace? Rifle mod? Hair trigger? Precise sights? Infused precision?
Using any bomb except #1 is a huge dps loss.

so are you one of those people who makes an lfg like “80 heavy zerk only ping gear or kick” and follows through?

personally id think you always spam bomb 2 on cd. id think you use bomb 4 every time you stack to kill trash. but no… that has to be wrong cuz you said so. lets all just camp bomb kit spamming 1 cuz everything else is a dps loss.

…why would you even write this

wannabe elitists.
They try to min-max to a point where they break the class and its purpose entirely^^

Hey again! Let me rephrase! Using sitting duck to proc vuln with glue bomb is stupid! Same for bomb 2 and 4. As for the dps loss..it is true. I stated a fact. Using smoke bomb to blind thrash is a good thing to do but a dps loss nonetheless. How much? All! You deal 0 damage with it.

Why would you use fire bomb on cooldown when flamethrower provides a better fire field and also includes a low cooldown blast finisher which is also a dps gain? It also has a blind that’s almost instant cast.

And I do gearcheck every pug I do. Right down to sigils and consumables. No justice sigil in CM? Kick! Some are sneaky and ping stuff like light of dwayna but then I ask them to send me a screenshot to be sure of the stats.
If I see a warrior with that ugly cof armor I kick them on sight. If it’s dyed purple/green/yellow I block them too. I care bout about effiency and fashion.

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Posted by: GiannisPapapa.4961

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“nonexistent cues”.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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constructive thread becomes cesspit
gj guys, mature & intelligent

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