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Posted by: coro.3176

coro.3176

Looking for some advice.

I really like the Engineer’s skills, but I feel like I’m just inferior in PvP. I like to build tanky so I can be in the middle of fights and control the play. I don’t mind cutting back on offense to get it.

I’ve done well with this as Warrior and Necro (was ranked like 13th in NA solo at some point) but just can’t do the same with Engi. My health drops so quickly even with toughness and vitality! And unlike Warrior or Necro, there’s practically no mitigation. I can’t go invuln forever, or use death shroud.

Obviously skill is a factor, since I’m still learning, but I like to think I’ve got the basics down. (can swap to toolkit for a quick block in time, not trying to hit moving targets at 1500 range with slow-kitten grenades, can execute rifle combos pretty well)

I just don’t feel powerful or tanky. Any tips?

My Build: Power – usually Soldier Amulet, Melandru runes, points in Explosives, Inventions, Alchemy,

eg. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpvrlYxkLseNSbBFylWRRuxp85CEgjC-TJRBwAXuAAB3focZAAPAAA

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Posted by: ArrDee.2573

ArrDee.2573

Hello frands! Vee Wee here #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

The first thing I noticed is that you have no dodges! It doesn’t matter how much defensive stats you have! If you don’t have dodges you will die! Take Invigorating Speed with 10 in Tools for Speedy Kits! Or grab an Energy Sigil! You also don’t have a stunbreak! This makes you very vulnerable to focus fire and/or chain CCs! Maybe you could swap Rocket Boots for Elixir S or Elixir Gun or even Slick Shoes for the stun break!

As for being powerful, try using Celestial Amulet instead of Soldier! I use this build and it’s both tanky and powerful!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUp+qlcxELseNCbBNqxI6N2xq85DEgkC-TJxHwADeAAa2fAwFAoYZAA
or
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUp+qlcxELseRCbBNqxAqNIyNWlPfgAkUA-TJxHwADeAAa2fAwFAoYZAA

Hope that helped! Wahoo! Bye frands!

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

If you’re looking for something more durable I wouldn’t go power, I would go cond with rabid. Celestial is low on toughness and eng doesn’t really need the vit. The rest of the stats are ok on it though.

HT, Bomb, Nade, toolkit or Elixir gun (eg is more group support, toolkit is more selfish)

Same build as Arr’s first one but you take forceful explosives in the adept slot.

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Posted by: Myrix.6347

Myrix.6347

I like knight’s amulet a lot more. My build isn’t that far off from yours. ArrDee is right though, you’ll want either invigorating speed or Adrenal implants.

Your sigils seem a bit off. One is for bursting and the other isn’t. I don’t know how I feel about intelligence sigil on this build since our main damage comes from grenades and they’re a bunch of small hits. I guess if you use it for rifle 5 but still. Sigil of hydromancy hits harder than fire sigil and it chills so I use that instead now. It’s melee range but that’s my favorite range on engi anyway.

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Posted by: Adamantium.3682

Adamantium.3682

Necros and Warriors are largely passive defense. Especially the Warrior. Necro is basically 1 button (DS) but with their humongous health pool they’re also largely passive. Engineer is the opposite. We can be just as tanky as anyone, but you have to do it actively.

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Posted by: coro.3176

coro.3176

Oh wow. You’re so right!
I just tried Invigorating Speed / Speedy Kits and it’s amazing. The extra dodges are more than enough to make it through to the next heal or block or whatever.

@Arr, I’m using the first build you linked and it’s awesome. So many dodges.

Thanks everyone!

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Posted by: KaporHabakuk.6219

KaporHabakuk.6219

Try more defensive traiting+amulets.I quite liked using healing power amulet with condie and toughness.Taking healing infused bombs with healing on kit equip which scale really well with healing power.You get almost 100% stronger heals on those traits,think its around 320 healing per bomb and almost 200 healing while having kit.Take bigger bomb radius and pistol CD trait.Its easy to play and you gonna sit on loads of heals with 3.2-3k armor.DPS wise,condies hurt always,even on small condie dmg,so u wont be useless aswell.

I was even runing with some healing boost runes,and nowadays u can put energy sigil together with battle,so you get might and endurance.

Only problems were encounters with other tankie peeps,especially engies,which can be neverending fight,especially if they run condie imunity trait.Othersvise u should be able to outlast everyone.

Am not 100% sure,but i think even egun heal was scaling quite well with healing power,so another 3k heal from there,with stun breaker and blast combo.

GL

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Posted by: jolllly.1320

jolllly.1320

There once was a dolyak-ranked engi
Who wanted to decap the Henge. He
Assaulted a necro
who was like “what the heck, bro?”
And fear locked him to death from revenge-y.

The necro then headed for Keep
While the engi respawned yelling, “Bleep!”
In the engi’s opinion
A few OP minions
Took him down—the necro was asleep!

Our brave engi then headed for Mine,
Vowing, “necro won’t take me this time!”
He called in supply drop,
Let turrets and bombs pop,
And laughed when the necro went flying.

[Loosely based on personal pvp experience, but artistic license has been taken as I can’t remember the last time I sent a necro flying. But an engi can dream… I’m in a similar situation as the original poster, though I should probably move from a condi to a power build, so thanks to you all for the tips.]

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

NevirSayDie.6235

There once was a dolyak-ranked engi
Who wanted to decap the Henge. He
Assaulted a necro
who was like “what the heck, bro?”
And fear locked him to death from revenge-y.

The necro then headed for Keep
While the engi respawned yelling, “Bleep!”
In the engi’s opinion
A few OP minions
Took him down—the necro was asleep!

Our brave engi then headed for Mine,
Vowing, “necro won’t take me this time!”
He called in supply drop,
Let turrets and bombs pop,
And laughed when the necro went flying.

[Loosely based on personal pvp experience, but artistic license has been taken as I can’t remember the last time I sent a necro flying. But an engi can dream… I’m in a similar situation as the original poster, though I should probably move from a condi to a power build, so thanks to you all for the tips.]

Hahaha. This is why I love the engineer forum/community!

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Posted by: jolllly.1320

jolllly.1320

Hahaha. This is why I love the engineer forum/community!

:D And where else could I post this and have it be appreciated? Glad it got a laugh!

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Posted by: Samson.1345

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