I finally get them! (a defense for turrets)

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Posted by: XerxesBlack.5892

XerxesBlack.5892

First off, Yes i think turrets need a buff and some trait work. They are not yet balanced to being as good as other minions.

BUT! I think I now know how to use the effectively (at least in PvP). You know how they have kitten for health and lacking damage? It’s because they are not meant to grab arrgo! The way I have found that they can rock in PvP is to place them then use them to tack on damage and CC while YOU kite the enemies about.

Example: Net turret holds them, thumper turret kicks them around, rocket turret kicks them on their butt when they try to stand.

Combine that with the rifles net and Overcharged shot I can keep most classes on their rears for quite a while. Then with reduced cool downs for the rifle, the net turret constantly firing nets with no real cool down to worry about and the 15 passive gadget trait that resets cool downs engineers can become the masters of CC…. If the foe isn’t ready for it.

Not saying it’s an all powerful build on par with the SD builds (which I actually use a variant of with this turret build) but I loved turrets when I started playing the engineer so I am glad to find any viable way to use them besides Supply Drop.

TLDR: Use turrets to add CC and damage, not take the hits or take any kind of aggro.

Beaks N Talons [NERF] – Engineer of the great and mighty Fort Engineer guild!

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Posted by: Rovus.5428

Rovus.5428

This is how I’ve been using them all along. Basically, if your enemy doesn’t have stability, they’re utterly screwed. A turret based engineer is the best 1v1 class there is in the game, as you could basically glue the enemy to one spot until their death.

Took me a while before I understood why everyone were complaining about them, and even so they really aren’t as bad as people try to make them out to be. Though, the glitches just about wreck them.

“Subtus pennas meas, pinnas meas interitum”

Alatum Interitum

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

I have been currently playing spvp build around the similar idea, it works great in 1v1 situations, especially when you are just trying to defend a point, but it becomes really hard when faced with more than one enemy

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Yea, only the thumper turret will provide the area cc that you need for more targets. :-(

Chaba Tangnu
Founding member of [NERF] Fort Engineer and driver for [TLC] The Legion of Charrs
RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast

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Posted by: Ferum Flamebender.5910

Ferum Flamebender.5910

I’ll test around with it in PvP today, and I’ll post up my build as soon as I found something succesfull!

But what weapon do you use with it? A rife for the extra CC and raw damage output? P/P for extra condition damage or P/S?

Aetra Ironbender, Rated E for Engineer- [WoT] Warlocks of Tyria- Far Shiverpeaks

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Posted by: Choops.3710

Choops.3710

I played a tourny yesterday where an Engi was running the enemy’s treb. Since I was running P/P Condi, killing treb from the courtyard wall with nades would take too long, I needed to stop it now. I rushed up there and the engi had all turrets. I spent the entire time cc’d or immobilized. We had our GS War go up there to try it next time, he met the same fate. I don’t know who this was (and believe me, I wish I knew so I could try to coerce him to tell me his secrets), but he was defending treb like a boss. We couldn’t touch him. I meant to post this in the forums, that someone is using a beast turret build and he must share the precious with us lol. I thought turrets were absolutely useless until yesterday. Dude was a great player with a great set up. If you’re reading this, kudos to you, sir.

Pikachoops – Engineer, Fort Aspenwood

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Posted by: Grackleflint.4956

Grackleflint.4956

I don’t think it was me, but here’s what I run purely for operating the treb.

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mcMM9cz0owmxMMwMxMGax0aVsocabV8khA7070M7khA707kuW70V7ofD8ofY

I surround myself with turrets before operating the treb, and cackle maniacally when people roll up, smash a turret, and get blown over the edge of the parapet, only to come up and do it again. I use a rifle for it’s control abilities, so I can place them where the blowback from my turret explosions will do the most harm. I chose Deployable Turrets to turn my turret abilities into ranged black finishers/knock back. This build is not competitive—it’s purely for fun.

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Posted by: Pizz.3698

Pizz.3698

And then a warrior Whirlwind attacks through and one-shots all your turrets.

Most classe have enough AoEs to kill all your turrets without even trying. ( Piercing Shots, AoE based weapons like staff ele and necros, etc) Turret build is good against thieves with Dagger Storm on cooldown, or noobs that simply try to walk through them. But I’m glad to see at least some people use them :-)

Piiz

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Posted by: Grackleflint.4956

Grackleflint.4956

What part about it being a fun, non-competitive build did you miss? Always a critic, I suppose.

Also, with the Accelerant-packed Turrets trait, they explode & knockback when killed, so I don’t care if someone stands in the middle of them and whirlwinds.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Also, with the Accelerant-packed Turrets trait, they explode & knockback when killed, so I don’t care if someone stands in the middle of them and whirlwinds.

Yes, please stand in the middle of them and whirlwind.

Chaba Tangnu
Founding member of [NERF] Fort Engineer and driver for [TLC] The Legion of Charrs
RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast

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Posted by: Kingfisher.7213

Kingfisher.7213

But I’m glad to see at least some people use them :-)

I like using them, but then again I suffer from a mild case of Turrets Syndrome.

When I first used them and saw them blow up too fast, I could feel the Turrets kick in and hear myself go, “Oh kitten…”

But when I spec’ed them so they blast someone away on their destruction, the Turrets still kicked in, but in a good way.

Then I was like, “Oh yeah! Take that you furry little kitten. Go back and play with your ball of kitten yarn! Are you crying? Do you want a bowl of kitteny milk? Yeah you do, you baby kitten!”