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(edited by Xyonon.3987)
…boy I never ever thought they would be THAT wrong! I never gave the much attention in the first place tough. Oh yea – and HI!
Lately I’ve beed doing calculations about the engi (wich I’m gonna release here and maybe on reddit too, once I’m done) and so for the best results I’ve tried to get the actual cast time for each relevant dps-skill the engi has. It was astonishing how terrible wrong the tooltips are … so I just want to share them with you:
Name of the Skill | Tool Tip | Real Casttime
Hammer
Positive Strike, Negative Bash, Equalizing Blow | 1.5s | 2.75s
Electro-whirl | 1s | 1.25s
Rocket Charge | 1.75s | 2.25s
Shock Shield | 1.75s | correct
Thunderclap | 0.75s | 1.25s
Rifle
Hip Shot | 0.75s | 0.84s
Blunderbuss | 0.5s | 0.84s
Overcharged Shot | 0s | correct (+knockback)
Jump Shot | 1s | 1.5s
Pistol
Fragmentation Shot | 0.5s | 0.84s
Poison Dart Volley | 1.75s | 2.25s
Static Shot | 0s | 0.5s
Blowtorch | 0.5s | 0.84s
Grenade Kit
Grenade | 0.5s | 1s
Shrapnel Grenade | 0.5s | 1s
Flash Grenade | 0.5s | 1s
Freeze Grenade | 0.5s | 1s
Poison Grenade | 0.5s | 1s
Grenade Barrage | 0.5s | 1s
Bomb Kit
Bomb | 0.5s | 0.84s
Fire Bomb | 0.5s | 0.84s
Concussion Bomb | 0.5s | 0.84s
Bog Ol’ Bomb | 0.5s | 0.84s
Flame Thrower
Flame Jet | 2.25s | 2.5s
Flame Blast | 0.5s | correct
Air Blast | 0.5s | correct
Napalm | 0s | 0.75-1s (not sure here)
Incendiary Ammo | 0s | correct
Elixier Gun
Tranquilizer Dart | 0.75s | 0.84s
Glob Shot | 0.75s | 0.84s
Fumigate | 2.25s | 2.5s
Acid Bomb | 0.25s | correct (+jump)
Tool Kit
Smack, Whack, Thwack | 2s | 3.25s
Box of Nails | 0.75s | 1.25s
Pry Bar | 0.5s | 1s
Throw Wrench | 0.5s | 1s
Throw Mine | 0.5s | 1s
Mine Field| 1s | 1.25s
Mortar Kit
Mortar Shot | 0.5s | 0.8s
Poison Gas Shell | 0.5s | 0.8s
Endothermic Shell | 0.5s | 0.8s
Flash Shell | 0.5s | 0.8s
Orbital Strike | 0.75 | 1.5s
Out of all those skills, only 6 appear to have correct tooltips. I know about aftercast and all that stuff, but seriously, some numbers are WAY off. Why can’t you give us just the exact correct numbers in the tooltip, including aftercast? I mean those tooltips are worth nothing like this.
If anyone finds something greatly off, please tell me immediately. I’m just a human aswell and I may have made a mistake or two.
Thanks for reading!
Greez!
- Ziggs Ironeye
(edited by Xyonon.3987)
dis is not just cast time – dis is also animation time and it happens to all ingame skills
It’s just the cast time + aftercast. Yet a cast time without aftercast in decription is useless. I know this is for every skill ingame, but I simply wanted to share my stuff, especially for the skills who are heavily off.
Thanks this is good stuff.
yeah is this for basically any skill, the after cast is not shown and might make calculations a bit off
Hip Shot and Orbital Strike have the same cast time on the tooltip.
But the Orbital always feels much more longer…
You are correct Ziggy, the tooltips are very deceiving . One thing I’dd like to point out is that there is an important differnce between cast and aftrrcast: interrupting doesnt interrupt te attack if hit in aftercast.
Thanks this is good stuff.
np more inc soon™
yeah is this for basically any skill, the after cast is not shown and might make calculations a bit off
you mean WAY off
You are correct Ziggy, the tooltips are very deceiving . One thing I’dd like to point out is that there is an important differnce between cast and aftrrcast: interrupting doesnt interrupt te attack if hit in aftercast.
this is why its best to notice the start of the animation just before aftercast. once you can, you can interrupt many people, but add quickening to it, and its hard to catch the difference.
I think the person that was calculating the time was including both cast and after cast, as the animation still finishes playing in after cast.
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