I know this won’t be the popular opinion but… I really liked the hobosack, it was unique to Engi and it was one of the reasons I started the class back in the day before I really knew how fun the class was.
Please ANet give us an option to turn them back on if we choose to do so, at least in PvE. And do something about the ridiculous bomb kit graphics also. I don’t really want to blow things up with a wash tub..
This is simply my opinion, ideally this game gives as many people the experience they want. I’m not looking to force others back into seeing hobosacks if they don’t want to.
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Aside from Bomb Kit’s animations looking completely ridiculous, and the old Toolkit skin being the same as Bomb Kit for some unknown reason kit’s just look really incomplete without the back piece portion.
Where am I supposed to store the 5 different types of bombs/grenades/mortar rounds and 4 different med packs? Where are the apparatus that produce all the flames and gunk from FT and EG?
Toolkit is the only one I might be okay with not having a “hobosack”. Just give us the gear shield in our off hand to compliment the Fixer Upper that currently comprises our entire Toolkit somehow.
Player A: Where’d that Box of Nails, Pry Bar, Magnet, Gear Shield come from?
Player B: I dunno I swore all he had was a stupid wrench.
I get that you don’t have test servers, but hobosacks were a defining characteristic of Engineers. I’m sorry for those that want to show off their wings or whatever other vanity back pieces they have, but completely removing hobosacks is not an acceptable solution.
You have a problem with engineers pulling a box of nails out of nowhere, but have no problem with them pulling a giant toolkit backpack out of nowhere?
Not to mention that the flamethrower and elixir gun were completely disconnected from their backpacks, so it still didn’t really explain where they got their fuel from.
You have a problem with engineers pulling a box of nails out of nowhere, but have no problem with them pulling a giant toolkit backpack out of nowhere?
Not to mention that the flamethrower and elixir gun were completely disconnected from their backpacks, so it still didn’t really explain where they got their fuel from.
I’m pretty sure it would be technically impossible to connect the two since they’re just a weapon and back piece skin. I’m perfectly okay with that, and I imagine other hobosack lovers would be as well.
Regardless, I’m pretty sure that was very low on the list of reasons people didn’t like hobosacks if it was even on the list at all. Much higher on the list were people wanting to show off their vanity back pieces, which I understand completely. A similar crowd to those wanting to be able to show off their legendary weapons while in a kit somehow. Anet can’t just knee jerk “fix” that one like they did with hobosacks. Others just didn’t like the aesthetic, which is also justified. But I personally rolled an Engi because I DID like the aesthetic.
Put a checkbox in the Hero panel for hobosacks, and another to enable legendary kit skins for those with a legendary (c’mon Anet get on that). Problem solved.
If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!
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Seriously, all you people that complain that you liked the hobosack, how do you forget that this exists?
Also:
…Anet can’t just knee jerk “fix” that one like they did with hobosacks….
Um….. what!?
“Knee jerk fix!?” It took us 3 flipping years to get them to remove the hobosack, that is as far from a “knee jerk fix” as you can get!
I too miss the hobo sacks on my engi. I understand that many…or most…didn’t like them and wanted to show off their shiney back pieces, and I’m cool with that. But my eng wasn’t about shiney. She was about being an eng. The sacks were part of that and now they’re gone. I spent money in the gem store buying what little eng / steampunk stuff was available and now a large part of my character’s ‘character’ is gone. Had the skins been made available for my back items, all would still be well, but instead…white wings… =(
As for the Universal multitool pack..I have it, and its not the same. “Cool” is subjective. I don’t begrudge anyone the right to show off their flashy wings or whatever. I just want my engi to look like an engi again.
I too miss the hobo sacks on my engi. I understand that many…or most…didn’t like them and wanted to show off their shiney back pieces, and I’m cool with that. But my eng wasn’t about shiney. She was about being an eng. The sacks were part of that and now they’re gone. I spent money in the gem store buying what little eng / steampunk stuff was available and now a large part of my character’s ‘character’ is gone. Had the skins been made available for my back items, all would still be well, but instead…white wings… =(
As for the Universal multitool pack..I have it, and its not the same. “Cool” is subjective. I don’t begrudge anyone the right to show off their flashy wings or whatever. I just want my engi to look like an engi again.
How does the multi-tool pack not fulfill that? It looks the same as the old hobo-sack, it even has the hobo-esque patchwork craftsmanship and red rag that serves no foreseeable purpose.
I’ll be honest, I miss the older bomb pack. For me it had a lot of character and it looked much better than the wooden half-barrels we are currently carrying around.
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People wanted a choice, not all of them wanted the backs to be completely removed.
A simple checkbox somewhere that asks “do you want bundles to overwrite backslot Visuals, yes/no?” would’ve been just peachy.
After kitten near 3 years that wouldn’t be to much to ask for.
But either everyone is forced to see hobosacks, or no one is allowed to see hobosacks. Why such extremes?
Where am I supposed to store the 5 different types of bombs/grenades/mortar rounds and 4 different med packs?
Well where were you supposed to store the 5 different backpacks themselves? It’s not like you drag them in a shopping cart around or anything.
Well, as a hobo you clearly were supposed to have stolen the shopping cart. Duh.
Seriously though, glad the bags are gone. And I think the reaction would be much more positive if bomb kit wasn’t so borked and mortar kit didn’t look so cheap.
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And I think the reaction would be much more positive if bomb kit wasn’t so borked and mortar kit didn’t look so cheap.
I think this is key. There are lots of excellent back pieces out there and moreover time and again rewards for LS1 and LS2 were back pieces that we rarely saw or interacted with between the kit back piece and shield.
I’m hopeful that these replacement skins will become more unique and interesting as they tweak them. Someone earlier posed an idea that kits evolve in look/style based on the rarity of the weapon you have equipped. This sounds like an excellent idea. I’d also be down for kit racial skins. Cause while the Charr may have invented Engineering, Asuras undoubtedly made it better.
Have you considered it might be different people some of us liked hobo sacks and now they are gone.
The keyword here is “some.” They went with what the majority of Engineers wanted, and I thank them for it. There is a backpiece that looks just like the hobosack if you really want that look.
If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!
Create a level 1 engineer today to get your Universal Mulit-Tool pack!
Seriously, all you people that complain that you liked the hobosack, how do you forget that this exists?
I started this thread trying to be respectful to everyone who hated Hobosacks. I was hoping to diffuse pretentious responses like this but I guess I failed there. I never posted any derogatory remarks in the hobohate thread, why, cuz that was your opinion and it wasn’t wrong. I simply liked them and would like to see them return for those of us who want it. I personally don’t want a static back piece, I want the kits as they were.
Oddball? Hipster? Way off the mark buddy.
“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance”
I am with the OP. I liked how unique our backs were. I don’t really like backpack pieces anyways and was happy to have unique ones fitting with the class and what I was using at the time.
If there was an option to select one or the other to use it would be awesome.
If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!
Create a level 1 engineer today to get your Universal Mulit-Tool pack!
Seriously, all you people that complain that you liked the hobosack, how do you forget that this exists?
Also:
…Anet can’t just knee jerk “fix” that one like they did with hobosacks….
Um….. what!?
“Knee jerk fix!?” It took us 3 flipping years to get them to remove the hobosack, that is as far from a “knee jerk fix” as you can get!
Trying to be a kitten but failing at it eh ?
It doesn’t take an engineer (pun intended) to know that each kit had different hobo-sack and not just 1 universal skin like lv 1 engie.
If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!
Create a level 1 engineer today to get your Universal Mulit-Tool pack!
Seriously, all you people that complain that you liked the hobosack, how do you forget that this exists?
Also:
…Anet can’t just knee jerk “fix” that one like they did with hobosacks….
Um….. what!?
“Knee jerk fix!?” It took us 3 flipping years to get them to remove the hobosack, that is as far from a “knee jerk fix” as you can get!
Trying to be a smartbehind (a** got filtered) but failing at it eh ?
It doesn’t take an engineer (pun intended) to know that each kit had different hobo-sack and not just 1 universal skin like lv 1 engie.
There’s been a constant uproar from the Enti community to hide the back piece from kits for years. The change FINALLY comes and there’s next to no word of thanks , but a thread like this pops up. If I was a dev, I’d probably stop caring about appeasing this community. I just hope they get paid well…
There’s been a constant uproar from the Enti community to hide the back piece from kits for years.
The uproar was from people who hated them, of course those of us who liked them wouldn’t say much. My original post simply expresses my personal opinion, I’m not saying the change is wrong at all, just that I would like the option to have mine back.
“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance”
