Guild Wars 2

Iso a fantastic bunker, I heard we are the best bunkers in the game.

Most engineer “bunkers” tend to actually be point assaulters. Guardians are the best bunkers because they are nearly immune to focused burst and they have the most group stability/cleansing/healing reasonably available to a build. There isn’t really an argument there, although yes, an engineer could possibly survive a 2v1 for longer than a guardian could, depending on builds.

I’m not sure what you’re asking about though…?

WHen you mention group cleansing, the EG #3 comes to mind, with its cleanse of up to 5 conditions in an AoE on a 10s cool down seems just as dependable as anything you will find in a standard guardian build.

True, EG 3 is underused. It’s much harder to use well than guardian shouts, since it’s a long channel and doesn’t put out significant damage/conditions or help the engineer at all. But it’s an amazing skill in the right hands.

Guard still has more overall teamfight potential. I could see a team using an engineer as a guardian replacement, though. My point was that engineers are great at point assault (which guardians are awful at), so you’ll usually see teams using those two in their strongest roles.

Why were my hopes destroyed. I love perm swift/vigor! I must find a build on here that satisfies my hunger.

What about a tanky/dps build?

Perma swift/vigor is good in a lot of builds, from glass cannons to tanks.

And you can play engineer as a point assaulter the way you describe, just don’t expect to be a better mid bunker than a guardian.

Tanky dps is also good. Usually looks like condi nades and bombs with 20-30 alchemy and the swiftness/vigor combo, and the rabid amulet.