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Posted by: Stubie.5834

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I haven’t played my engi in a while. I love the FT/EG combo. Is it viable for dungeon/fractals now with the boost to FT dmg? I have my bombs zerk spec atm but I’d really like to switch. Thanks.

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

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The current meta uses grenades/flamthrower/Elixir Gun.

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Posted by: Stubie.5834

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No bombs anymore huh? I’ve always hated nades personally. Ohh well I’ll mess around and see what I can come up with. Thanks for responding.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

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FT you want to use napalm and flame blast, with maybe the blind/knockback as needed. The auto while a lot better than it was is still sub par.

EG is also used for utility, Acid Bomb is amazing damage if you cancel it and can handle that combo, the other skills can be useful as well.

Grenades (or bombs) will be your main kit still. Grenades being more vuln and therefor more damage than bombs, though if you really hate grenades I guess you could use bombs, just I’d recommend getting use to nades, they’re amazing.

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Posted by: coglin.1867

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The current meta uses grenades/flamthrower/Elixir Gun.

That is by no means the current meta at all in my opinion.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: Depths.4051

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Probably just zerk gear, grenades, and whatever else you need to stack might would be more engi dungeon meta. pve is whatever you want it to be really though, long as you’re contributing and not using nomad gear then its probably fine to do what you want.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

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The current meta uses grenades/flamthrower/Elixir Gun.

That is by no means the current meta at all in my opinion.

Good thing meta isn’t a personal opinion!

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

The current meta uses grenades/flamthrower/Elixir Gun.

That is by no means the current meta at all in my opinion.

Good thing meta isn’t a personal opinion!

Would you prefer I simply state it as a matter of fact? I prefer not to, but as I never see it used in PvE, it fails in most aspects of PvP, and it dang sure isn’t a WvW meta build, you would need to go far to convince folks this is the meta build.

The most meta of builds, at least by forums post, build web sites, videos, streams, and tournaments, it is grenades/tool kit/elixir s.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: Chaith.8256

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The most meta of builds, at least by forums post, build web sites, videos, streams, and tournaments, it is grenades/tool kit/elixir s.

Oh, rest assured, he definitely meant PvE, no reason to bring up WvW or PvP.

I know little of PvE land in this MMO, but knowing Engineer, I don’t doubt his claims – only that it’s missing bomb kit which I’ve heard many claiming is god in PvE for the Auto-attack.

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Posted by: Xyonon.3987

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Engineer meta is 6/6/0/0/2 or sometimes 6/6/0/2/0 with Grenades/Flamethrower/Elixier Gun in short combats and Bombs instead of Flamethrower for longer lasting fights. It also depends on allies – if you got more eles who can spam fire fields, the Flamethrower is better again, yet if enemies spread your bomb dps is bigger than the grenade ones. And yes there are parts in the game where mobs simply won’t stack that good.

There are also plenty of skills you should use and swap. But yea the PvE meta: Gren/FT/EG.

To answer your main question – the FT damage only hits 3 enemies with it’s aa while explosives hit 5 and also deal more damage even vs 3 targets. However aslong as you don’t care about 100% efficiency and prefer more fun, it’s not totally wrong to use a FT as damage source. It may even become more handy combined with the bombs to proc more might stacks for allies instead of causing vuln with nades. Try something.

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Posted by: Shaogin.2679

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The current meta uses grenades/flamthrower/Elixir Gun.

That is by no means the current meta at all in my opinion.

As explained above, it is the current PvE meta, which is what op is asking about.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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if you use ft/eg/nades you really dont autoattack much at all.
even with a slightly lower number of skills like bombs/mine/nades you arent autoing much.
you just have so many high damage cds that it takes like 15 sec to go through everything that does more damage than an auto, so by the time everything is on cd some of your long cds are ending. basically with ft/eg/nades the trick is to keep nades 2 and ft 2 on cd as often as possible, theyre really short, and thread your longer cds in between: nades 4/tb, rifle 3/5, eg 4, ft 4, well placed control effects.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

My post got deleted because I am toxic. Can’t be bothered to rewrite.
Flamethower auto is bad. Don’t use it!

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

Like other said, the meta currently is either 6/6/0/0/2 for max dps, or 6/6/0/2/0 for perma vigor but you lose static discharge.

For the kits you’ll always use Grenade and Elixir Gun. But you have 3 choice for the third kit.
- Flamethrower will give you a bit more dps because of Flame Blast/Detonate is a good burst with low cooldown. It also give you a fire field with Naplam and you have 1 blast.

- Bomb can be easier to use since you don’t need to open your Bomb kit for your rotation, just need to the Big O bomb. Almost as good dps, but the problem is the knockback that can screw up a stack, so other than a boss, this kit is not really good. If you have a fire field and a blast like the FT, you also have a smoke field to stealth your party. The best would be to switch to bomb kit when you need stealth and FT when you dps. But if you have difficulties switching trough all the kits in your rotation or if you dislike swithing utilities in the middle of a dungeon, then bomb can be a good choice.

- Tool kits is mostly for ppl that have a hard time staying alive. The only dps skill that you gonna use here is pry bar. It’s less good that FT, but it will give you access to gear shield that will block attack.

So ya. The Meta is Genade/Flamethrower/Elixir Gun. Genade will be your main kits, Flamethrower for a burst and a fire field and Elixir Gun for Acid Bomb.

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

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Meta for what ? for tpvp , spvp it seems no way the meta for me …. perhaps for PVE …

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

Meta for what ? for tpvp , spvp it seems no way the meta for me …. perhaps for PVE …

You missed the same thing I did. Once someone pointed it out, the OP specified dungeons/fractals, so the topic is PvE based.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: PierPiero.9142

PierPiero.9142

ops sorry … i did not read carefully .