Just came back to game...
So… is Dual Pistol/Condi build not really viable for WvW solo? Reading some disparaging topics on the subject…
After playing condition thief for a couple years, I switched over to playing a condition engineer after the patch. I basically just swapped the gear over and started roaming. It plays very differently but I am really enjoying it.
This is what I am currently running.
I’ve made multiple tweaks and continue to do so as I get more experience playing the build.
Originally I ran Elixir Gun but eventually I switched to Tool Kit.
Pros to Elixir Gun:
A 2nd Stun Breaker.
More Might Stacking with HGH.
More Healing with Elixir 5.
A gap opener/closer and Blast Finisher with Elixir 4.
Much stronger auto attack than Pistol.
Pros to Tool Kit.
1200 Range pull gives you gap closer + interrupt (confusion).
The 3 second Block is just amazing.
Pry bar adds more confusion plus a nice critical hit will break an Elementalist’s Diamond Skin.
They are both good choices imo. The Elixir Gun might actually be a better over all option, particularly if you use different runes. Superior Rune of the Aristocracy synergize well with the HGH, so also a very good option.
However with my current runes, the Tool Kit allows me to apply about 15 stacks of confusion on a foe in the opening combo. Often times this melts a person in seconds.
You could think of Tool Kit as more a burst play style, while Elixir Gun is more sustained damage style.
I originally ran a Sigil of Corruption, however I switched it to a Sigil of Energy after playing a while. Its a drop in DPS, however, since this build has no other access to energy regeneration, it really adds a lot to your survivability.
Which then leads to my 2nd choice in sigil, of Speed. For one, as a roamer, moving around faster is just a better experience. More importantly however, since mobility skills had their travel distances normalized, swiftness is stronger than ever. You can chase down/out run people who only have leaps and no swiftness of their own.
Tip: Often times I will stop by wolves or cats and stack 3 minutes (the cap) of swiftness very quickly. Between doing that, drinking Elixir B, plus the guards you kill at camps, you will pretty much have perma Swiftness.
And finally I ended up using Mortar Kit over Supply drop for a various reasons. However, the main reason I chose it is because it allows you to escape very sticky situations. When being chased by an enemy group, strategically dropping Chill and Blind Fields will really hamper their efforts and secure your escape.
Right now I have the hardest time when fighting Mesmers. They can be very slippery making it hard to land your burst. Condition Necros can wreck your face if they manage transfer conditions back to you, just have to be extra careful. And finally, Condition thieves can be a pain; often times these fights go either way.
It’s not P/P and might be a bit expensive for a newer player, but it should give you a general direction.
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@gnotshr Thanks so much for the reply and the detailed explanation. I really appreciate the help and insight.
I personally don’t like (pure) condibuilds that much, but a guildi of me postet this totay:
The Vipeneer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalcTh6rYJXwdLQ7FLsFV4SdRvG4HWiBgYHFjPBA-TVCEABJoEcG1f2Z/hvPBAqoDgEtAIp8DAzfO/AAIFAMTjA-w
Poison is like burning very strong at the Moment. Will give it a try. Cudos and copyright to chad / maesto.
Check out his channel on youtube, maybe he will make a video regarding the Vipeneer. (“ChadGW2”)
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I personally don’t like (pure) condibuilds that much, but a guildi of me postet this totay:
The Vipeneer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalcTh6rYJXwdLQ7FLsFV4SdRvG4HWiBgYHFjPBA-TVCEABJoEcG1f2Z/hvPBAqoDgEtAIp8DAzfO/AAIFAMTjA-wPoison is like burning very strong at the Moment. Will give it a try. Cudos and copyright to chad / maesto.
Check out his channel on youtube, maybe he will make a video regarding the Vipeneer. (“ChadGW2”)
I am running a similar build right now. I would stay away from pure condi with a 10 foot pole. Eles are running earth heavy lately and even on my celestial ele I ran into a few pure condition builds that could do not damage to me at all.
If the OP is new celestial gear might be out of the question. I can give you some advice though. Do not get yoked into movement traits. You have travelers runes for a reason. You can get more than a decent bit of escape (necessary for roaming solo) with elixir S’s throw and some smart movement. If you have the heart for it try tools out. Not only will it give you access to analyze (your’e roaming so you run into thieves often) but you can maximize your tool belt skills if you use kinetic battery (stealth, stun break, condi clearing etc.).
Elixir X is a gamble but just like the old days that gamble could pay off. Might want to consider that while roaming. On top of that the Moa Morph has helped me out of more than a few situations. Tool Kit is a must imho. Running with a low cd block and pull vs not having them is just eye opening.
One last thing I know you want PP but PS and Rifle are in a better spot right now.
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There is always a counter in some ways… but he asked for a P/P Condibuild.
And the Vipeneer is fun to play with the Poisonstacking.
On the other Side, yes. Hybrid or Power will do better at the moment.
But i would never run P/P on a Hybridbuild. With cele Gear, run Rifle.
There is a good Hybridbuild from a Guildy, he is called Nano/First Target.
Doing enough Directdmg + high Burningstacks. Should give it a try. For more in depth information, just ask him. And of course you can use other mixed Gear, like he did. So cele Gear is no must have.
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Oh sweet! Mr First Target, Sir. Can you please explain your Build and the Rotations a bit for me?
Would be awesome!
I personally don’t like (pure) condibuilds that much, but a guildi of me postet this totay:
The Vipeneer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQJAqalcTh6rYJXwdLQ7FLsFV4SdRvG4HWiBgYHFjPBA-TVCEABJoEcG1f2Z/hvPBAqoDgEtAIp8DAzfO/AAIFAMTjA-wPoison is like burning very strong at the Moment. Will give it a try. Cudos and copyright to chad / maesto.
Check out his channel on youtube, maybe he will make a video regarding the Vipeneer. (“ChadGW2”)
Hey thank you!! The Vipeneer is almost exactly the build i have been playing as I level up. So at least I was on the right track.
Thanks so much.