Kit refinement and tool kits superspeed

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

A lot of our changes are awesome, and I’m very happy about that. However, toolkit seems a little worse than the rest with only a one second super speed with a 20 second kit refinement cd. Granted its a little early to make assumptions about how it will play out, but doesn’t that seem a little low to anyone else?

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Posted by: Resouled.5614

Resouled.5614

Is it just 1s? Ugh, I’d rather have the caltrops.. Those were quite good actually.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

NevirSayDie.6235

Agreed. I love the changes to our formerly useless KR effects (med kit and bomb kit) but the trait is still all about getting the strong effect and avoiding the weak effect. Only now that the 20s ICD is working correctly, it’s a big problem to “waste” kit refinement on a useless effect.

Before, using multiple kits with KR was a good thing because you had multiple utility slots that gained a benefit from a single trait. I’m not so sure KR will be worth it with 2+ kit builds anymore.

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Posted by: timidobserver.7925

timidobserver.7925

They are Definitely trying to tell people to use one kit if they are running KR.

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

Agreed. I love the changes to our formerly useless KR effects (med kit and bomb kit) but the trait is still all about getting the strong effect and avoiding the weak effect. Only now that the 20s ICD is working correctly, it’s a big problem to “waste” kit refinement on a useless effect.

Lol yes, even though kits are supposed to allow to switch weapons more freely than with weapon swap, I find myself more restrained when I put on this trait now. I’m hoping that is not what the developers went for when making a trait for kits.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

NevirSayDie.6235

Agreed. I love the changes to our formerly useless KR effects (med kit and bomb kit) but the trait is still all about getting the strong effect and avoiding the weak effect. Only now that the 20s ICD is working correctly, it’s a big problem to “waste” kit refinement on a useless effect.

Lol yes, even though kits are supposed to allow to switch weapons more freely than with weapon swap, I find myself more restrained when I put on this trait now. I’m hoping that is not what the developers went for when making a trait for kits.

Yup. I saw in another thread a comment to the effect of “I would only take KR in a single-kit bomb build,” and I think that’s going to essentially be how it shakes out.

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Posted by: Shanks R Us.2489

Shanks R Us.2489

The 20 second CD on the kits would be manageable if we could still jump and save our refinement.

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

Weirdest thing for me: the old proc on tool kit from kit refinement, was actually one of the most balanced procs around.
It was simple, had utility, did a little damage and had a decent cooldown.

I have no idea why they felt they had to change this one too.

And a 20 sec global cooldown? Seriously?
The new Kit Refinement would be awesome if each proc had a seperate 20 sec cooldown, uneffected by each other proc.

In this form it’s more of a nuiissance than a benefit to any build using more than one single kit!

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Posted by: ikiturso.4026

ikiturso.4026

speedbuff sounded great. 1 second gives u absolutely nothing. 3 seconds different world. In WvW it would save many engis life.

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Posted by: McDili.1549

McDili.1549

The 20 second CD on the kits would be manageable if we could still jump and save our refinement.

What? Do you have some impulse to jump every time you switch kits or something?

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Posted by: Shanks R Us.2489

Shanks R Us.2489

The 20 second CD on the kits would be manageable if we could still jump and save our refinement.

What? Do you have some impulse to jump every time you switch kits or something?

Well when I actually played often, I pvp’d on my engi, and it’s pretty important to not waste your main spike.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

The 20 second CD on the kits would be manageable if we could still jump and save our refinement.

What? Do you have some impulse to jump every time you switch kits or something?

By the way he said it I’m guessing its been fixed, but before if you switched while jumping the kit refinement didn’t go off.